Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.music.synth Subject: Re: need synth programming advice Message-ID: <2274@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Thu, 19-Dec-85 11:27:03 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.2274 Posted: Thu Dec 19 11:27:03 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Dec-85 06:13:55 EST References: <1241@sdcsvax.UUCP> <2271@pyuxd.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 31 Keywords: analog, mellotron >> I am trying to synthesize (on an analog synthesizer... a Matrix 12) the >> sound of the old Mellotron String Section. To me, it sounded nothing >> like a typical synthesizer string section. Somehow, there was more "air", >> or openness; yet at the same time there was a noticeable lack of thinness. >> Glenn Little > One tip I got from a KEYBOARD (?) interview with Jimmy Destri (of Blondie). > When recording "Fade Away and Radiate" (on which Robert Fripp played guitar), > he wanted to get that old KingCrimson-esque Mellotron sound, but all he had > was a Polymoog. He used the Polymoog piped through a cheap tape/analog > echo device (with somewhat poor high-end frequency response) with short > delay and ample feedback (without overkilling it). This reproduces the > "tapey" sound of the Mellotron pretty well. [RICH ROSEN] A couple of things I forgot to mention: 1) Use of chorus effect either on the originating synth/string machine or in the echo box enhances the effect. I kicked up the chorus on the Memory Man to just below the point where the pitch started to wobble, which simulates a sort of tape wow more than a vibrato. By adjusting carefully and keeping it within the bounds of tolerability, the effect sounds very Mellotron-y. 2) Tony Banks got what a lot of people thought was the best string sound in its day by doubling the Mellotron part on a synthetic string machine on "Many Too Many", achieving both bite and fullness. Perhaps mixing straight and tape echoed sounds will achieve a better overall result. -- Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr