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From: csg@pyramid.UUCP (Carl S. Gutekunst)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: I'm learning why nobody likes mod groups (NOT unreliable mail)
Message-ID: <77@pyramid.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 8-Dec-85 20:40:43 EST
Article-I.D.: pyramid.77
Posted: Sun Dec  8 20:40:43 1985
Date-Received: Mon, 9-Dec-85 06:30:12 EST
References: <1862@glacier.ARPA> <197@sdcc7.UUCP> <1959@glacier.ARPA> <267@omen.UUCP>
Reply-To: csg@pyramid.UUCP (Carl S. Gutekunst)
Organization: Pyramid Technology, Mountain View, CA
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Summary: Anonymous UUCP is not possible in 4.3 and V.2.

In article <267@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes:
>Why not have all moderators post a DIRECT UUCP LOGIN such as the one included
>in the signature below?  Considering the unreliability of uucp mail, we should
>insist that the list of moderators include UUCP direct login information.
>
>We have the solution.  Let's use it.

Unfortunately, this won't work universally unless the moderator is using old
UUCP software or has sources.

System V.2 UUCP requires all remote system names and logins to be listed in
USERFILE; 4.3bsd requires all names in L.sys. At least with 4.3bsd, you can
turn the check on and off at compile time. With V.2, you have to hack the
code to turn it off. (If I'm wrong on this, I'd sure like to hear about it!) 

These changes have been quite a shock to some sites, who never bothered to
make L.sys or USERFILE entries for sites that polled them. It also makes it
impossible to have "anonymous" UUCP logins, as Chuck is proposing.

An entirely different issue is whether large, heavily trafficked sites want
to broadcast this kind of information.

Hey, Peter, can HoneyDanber still do this?
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