Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!seismo!harvard!think!inmet!rgh From: rgh@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Re: north of the border Message-ID: <7300045@inmet.UUCP> Date: Sat, 7-Dec-85 12:49:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.7300045 Posted: Sat Dec 7 12:49:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Dec-85 03:49:48 EST References: <2586@sunybcs.UUCP> Lines: 29 Nf-ID: #R:sunybcs:-258600:inmet:7300045:000:1360 Nf-From: inmet!rgh Dec 7 12:49:00 1985 It is an act of simple courtesy to refer to people in the way they wish to be referred to. Citizens of the United States of America refer to themselves, and to each other, as "Americans". "America" means, in the USA, the USA, and not "the Americas", or "the New World" or "the Western Hemisphere". I gather that the objection to allowing us to refer to ourselves as "Americans" is that the usage is felt to imply some imperial attitude toward the rest of North and South (and Central) America. That is not the intent: even we anti-imperialists refer to ourselves as Americans. Similarly, in this sort of conversation: Q: Where are you from? A: America. Q: You mean, the United States? I trust the intent is not to be insulting or patronizing or pedagogic or simply anti-American, but it sure feels like that after the tenth time. This dialogue implies that Q thinks that a Spaniard might reply "Europe" or "Eurasia" rather than "Spain", or that a Canadian or Brazilian might reply "America" rather than "Canada" or "Brazil" -- it's really hard for me to believe that Q really needs to ask the disambiguating question. Note that the Brazilian might legitimately reply "the United States". It seems like people who can keep straight which country is "the United States" could handle the ambiguity of "America". Randy Hudson {ihnp4,ima}!inmet!rgh