Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site h-sc1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!ut-sally!seismo!harvard!h-sc1!breuel From: breuel@h-sc1.UUCP (thomas breuel) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Learn Japanese or bust. Message-ID: <849@h-sc1.UUCP> Date: Sun, 22-Dec-85 01:57:40 EST Article-I.D.: h-sc1.849 Posted: Sun Dec 22 01:57:40 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Dec-85 00:28:37 EST References: <1791@uwmacc.UUCP> <839@h-sc1.UUCP> <1809@uwmacc.UUCP> <842@h-sc1.UUCP> <418@bcsaic.UUCP> Organization: Harvard Univ. Science Center Lines: 30 > In article <842@h-sc1.UUCP> breuel@h-sc1.UUCP (thomas breuel) writes: > >Seriously. The English language, which is considered one of the easiest > >languages in the world... > Says who??? Seriously, how can you quantify that? By making studies of lots > of native speakers of languages X1, X2, X3... trying to learn languages Y1, I was not trying to make a quantitative statement. In talking to quite a number of foreigners, I frequently heard it said that English is one of the easier languages to learn. The reasons cited were numerous: opportunity for frequent use (active or passive) of the language, its lack of complicated grammatical constructs, the large number of non-native speakers and the tolerance of the native speakers, and the fact that it combines the Germanic and Romance vocabularies. If you followed my argument, you should have noticed that I was arguing against the validity of such assessments. I believe that English appears to be easier because a student familiar with another European language is likely to have some vague notion of the grammar and to be able to derive the approximate meanings of unfamiliar words. Ultimately, however, if you want to speak the language fluently and if you want to be able to express yourself clearly in writing, you must spend as much effort on studying English as you must on studying any other foreign language, since these abilities require speed and precision, not just a vague understanding. If all a foreign student is aiming for is some basic ability to communicate, then I would personally agree, though, that English is easier than, for example, Japanese or German. But 'basic ability to communicate' can hardly be called 'learning a laguage', can it. Thomas.