Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Easy languages Message-ID: <718@spar.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Dec-85 04:52:31 EST Article-I.D.: spar.718 Posted: Tue Dec 24 04:52:31 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Dec-85 03:46:07 EST References: <1791@uwmacc.UUCP> <839@h-sc1.UUCP> <1809@uwmacc.UUCP> <842@h-sc1.UUCP> <418@bcsaic.UUCP> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 68 >>Seriously. The English language, which is considered one of the easiest >>languages in the world... - Mike Maxwell >Says who??? Seriously, how can you quantify that? By making studies of >lots of native speakers of languages X1, X2, X3... trying to learn >languages Y1, Y2, Y3...English, where {X1, X2, X3...Y1, Y2, Y3...English} >are all unrelated languages? I doubt whether anyone has ever done that. >(Same comment for those who say, as I have often heard said, that English >is a very hard language.) - Thomas Breuel I think there are many criteria by which a language can be judged `easy' or `difficult' to learn. Is the written representation logical? If there are inflections, are there a large number of inflectional categories or only a few? Are there many exceptions? Does the language carry `excess baggage', like grammatical gender, or nominal classifiers? Are logical relations transparently represented in the form of the language? Artificial languages, like Loglan or Esperanto, for example, are genuinely `easy' languages according to all of the criteria above, although no doubt they seem more natural to europeans than they would to anyone else. Except for Chinese and (formal) Japanese, English is clearly one of the most difficult languages to write. Our spelling is quite abominable; in its defense, the orthography of the international european wordstock is preserved at the cost of uncertainty about pronunciation. This may provide some clue to the foreigner as to the meaning of new vocabulary. However, I think that we must conclude spoken English IS easy with respect to most of the other criteria. English nouns are very simple indeed -- the vast majority are of a single type (plural in -s); we have neither gender, nor classifiers. Our verbs admit more complexity, but even the few irregular ones are still simpler with 3 stems {see(-s,-ing), saw, seen} than any european language I know. Most astonishing is the huge number of aspects/moods/tenses that can be generated from the single Chomskian formula: VP => Tense + (Modal) + (HAVE + EN) + (BE + ING) + VERB We might also judge a difficulty of a language according to phonetic peculiarities relative to the world languages. For example, the central vowels in French or German are more likely to present difficulty than the 5 cardinal vowels in Japanese or Greek. The opposition between palatized and nonpalatized consonants in Slavic or Gaelic are also likely to cause difficulties. The tones in Chinese or Thai can be a particularly difficult obstacle for those whose native languages lack such features. English, with 7 vowels, 7 diphthongs, a strong emphasis on the major syllable (with all others approaching schwa), and a propensity for closing open syllables, is a bit unusual. I suspect our initial and final consonant clusters (as in `strengths') are problematic for most newcomers, as are the initial sounds of {the, thin, at, up}. Nonetheless, I do not think these qualities are any more unusual than say, vowel harmony in Turkish. I have heard that the slavic languages are, in fact, particularly difficult for even native children to learn, requiring an extra year before children have to proficiency to enter public schools. I can testify as to the enormous difficulty of Russian/Polish nouns -- there are many different nominal inflexions and declensional categories! I found Latin and Greek nouns much simpler in contrast. -michael