Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion.jewish,net.nlang.africa Subject: Re: Apartheid on the West Bank Message-ID: <2245@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Dec-85 10:02:37 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.2245 Posted: Wed Dec 11 10:02:37 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Dec-85 05:29:58 EST References: <4188@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <360@ubvax.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 26 Xref: watmath net.politics:12428 net.religion.jewish:2851 net.nlang.africa:181 > The implication that Arab countries are not members of our "civilized" > society seems to be very inflamatory. Are you really meaning to say that > Arabs are any more CIVILIZED than Israeli's? > > Do you actually believe that any people TOLERATE terrorism? What does it > mean to better tolerate something which hurts people so erratically? [SINHA] Frankly, and unfortunately, it seems that many peoples tolerate and advocate terrorism, but of course, only when it is for "good" causes. And then, of course, they give it a name other than terrorism, because it represents the "goodness" of *their* cause, and thus is obviously unworthy of the name "terrorism". Until we recognize the futility and arrogant violence (and the danger) of bigoted divisive petty nationalistic fervor, we are doomed to witness "our" freedom fighters and "their" terrorists tearing the world to shreds. "The most basic change necessary to our collective survival: the last redefinition of humanity---gradually extending from family to tribe to nation to the human race." ---from Gwynne Dyer's "War" -- "I was walking down the street. A man came up to me and asked me what was the capital of Bolivia. I hesitated. Three sailors jumped me. The next thing I knew I was making chicken salad." "I don't believe that for a minute. Everyone knows the capital of Bolivia is La Paz." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr