Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cvl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!ut-sally!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!arig From: arig@cvl.UUCP (Ari Gross) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion.jewish,net.nlang.africa Subject: Re: Re: Apartheid on the West Bank Message-ID: <1061@cvl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Dec-85 01:50:44 EST Article-I.D.: cvl.1061 Posted: Fri Dec 20 01:50:44 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Dec-85 06:34:00 EST References: <4188@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <360@ubvax.UUCP> <1448@ihlpg.UUCP> <431@eneevax.UUCP> <210@pluto.UUCP> <491@mhuxr.UUCP> Organization: Computer Vision Lab, U. of Maryland, College Park Lines: 37 Xref: watmath net.politics:12620 net.religion.jewish:2890 net.nlang.africa:195 > To get back to the original argument: were Israel to annex the West Bank, > would that make the Palestinians Israeli citizens? If so, would they not > have a majority of the vote (assuming they were to vote as a block)? > Should Israel, then, limit their voting rights, thereby assuring it > remains a Jewish state? If it does so, does that not violate the principles > of democracy that Israel is founded on? > Marcel-Franck Simon ihnp4!{mhuxr, hl3b5b}!mfs Israel should allow those Arabs that profess loyalty to the state to take on citizenship, with all the priviliges and responsibilities that accompany it. The right to vote AND the RESPONSIBILITY of fighting in the army and paying taxes. Arabs living in Israel proper are allowed to be citizens of the state without serving in the army ; this is certainly unfair to other Israelis . If Arabs in Israel, including Judea and Samaria, feel their allegiance is to another country let them go there -- many Jews living in Syria , Iran etc would be grateful if they were allowed to leave and come to Israel. BTW, I argued this same point at the Arab Student's Club meeting here at Columbia University recently -- if Arabs in Israel, including Judea and Samaria, don't like the State of Israel let them call United and move back to Jordan. I was told "but they don't want to leave" --- I think the proper response to this is "they should be grateful they are allowed to leave". If the Jews in New York City clamored for self-determination and the right to make Borough Park and its environs into an independent sovereign country would anyone take them seriously ? Probably not --- unless they had some oil-rich cousins ........... ari gross ari@columbia-20.arpa arig@cvl.arpa