Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!ut-sally!raghu From: raghu@ut-sally.UUCP (Raghu Ramakrishnan) Newsgroups: net.nlang.india Subject: Re: Government and individual choice Message-ID: <3870@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Dec-85 03:36:26 EST Article-I.D.: ut-sally.3870 Posted: Tue Dec 24 03:36:26 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Dec-85 03:33:50 EST References: <3817@ut-sally.UUCP> <826@sfmag.UUCP> Reply-To: raghu@sally.UUCP (Raghu Ramakrishnan) Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 36 Keywords: individual vs. society In article <826@sfmag.UUCP> rajeev@sfmag.UUCP (S.Rajeev) writes: ------------------------------- >ut-sally!raghu writes: >> Is it good for the state to have power in matters that represent individual >> choice? ..... >> .... there is a presupposition that the state knows what >> is 'good' and that makes me uncomfortable .... ------------------------------------ >comments quoted above. I think he errs in assuming that the state ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >is, of necessity, stupid/evil/'bad' (I know these are fashionable ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >libertarian notions, but that doesn't make them true!) There are >several facts I'd like to point out: > I don't really assume that the state is, of necessity or otherwise, evil/ stupid/'bad' (despite the tempting fashionability of these libertarian notions!). All I wish to point out is that any regulation is with respect to a set of supposedly 'good' behaviour or values. My reservations are due to the fact that there may be no such characterization that holds across the board, and in any event, it is undesirable to give any group or entity (the state, for example) - no matter how well-intentioned - the right to enforce its views on what is 'good'. Rajeev goes on to point out (as did Subba Rao of Maryland, in an earlier posting) that it is often necessary to have a common order imposed by some (hopefully enlightened and 'disinterested') authority. I agree. I mean, to do otherwise would be to repudiate every law! (But wait a minute - that means no lawyers, right? The idea does have attractions ... :-)) The bottom line is, I think, that any law is a price we pay for some societal necessity. It is a price that should be examined very carefully.