Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uscvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!oberon!uscvax!baparao From: baparao@uscvax.UUCP (Bapa Rao) Newsgroups: net.nlang.india Subject: State of the Computer market in India Message-ID: <166@uscvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Dec-85 16:38:11 EST Article-I.D.: uscvax.166 Posted: Fri Dec 27 16:38:11 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Dec-85 05:37:19 EST References: <1357@cwruecmp.UUCP> <1601@Shasta.ARPA> <1361@cwruecmp.UUCP> <1602@Shasta.ARPA> Reply-To: baparao@usc-cse.UUCP (Bapa Rao) Organization: CS&CE Depts, U.S.C., Los Angeles, CA Lines: 60 I am excited to see the lively discussion in this newsgroup on this subject, esp. the recent one between Messrs. Lakhotia and Sriram. I also find the occassional postings regarding developments in this field in India to be quite informative. However, I find that I am without the sources and references needed to form a comprehensive, objective picture of the state of industrial computing ( including hardware + software, mainframes/minis/micros ...) in India. I for one would be much obliged if someone would post the names and contact addresses for books/reports/journals/conference proceedings/trade publications, ... concerned with the Indian computer market, especially software. Ideally, I would like to see an authoritative survey article summarizing the state-of-the-art in India, which analyzes the strengths and weaknesses, and provides a prognosis for the future, in the context of the current "liberal" trade policy of the government. If no such survey article exists, perhaps some such thing can emerge from the discussions on net.nlang.india on the subject? Now, let me summarize the impressions I gathered from the discussion between Messrs. Lakhotia and Sriram: 1. There is essentially no system software (e.g., editors, compilers) being developed by Indian software vendors. The standard way of obtaining system software is through hardware vendors, who copy and port packages that are in varying stages of obsolescence in the West. However, some kinds of application software, notably Devanagari editors and CAD/CAM software are being indigeneously developed. (What is the quality of such software? Who is developing it? The big hardware merchants? Independent software houses? Government? Others?) 2.In general, end-users lack in-house expertise to develop their own application software on top of the standard system packages and are heavily dependent on the original vendor for this. These vendors are themselves not in a position to make any radical innovations, and will only do low-level tuning and adaptation work. Their use of the term "research and development" in this context is inappropriate and misleading. 3. (Extrapolating from 1 and 2) There is negligible interaction between the software industry and the research divisions of the major universities and the IITs, with the result that software developers have neither the knowledge nor the confidence to design and develop state-of-the-art software of competitive quality. Basically, they are satisfied with grabbing what money they can in a protected market by selling second-hand, second-rate software. 4. The situation is expected to alter, given the more liberal trade policy of the present government and the prospects of greater interaction between industry and the university Computer Science departments that are being started all over the place. (Are there any tangible effects and trends seen in the short time the new trade policy has been in effect?) I must emphasize that the above points constitute a "global" picture of the situation, as I understood it from the postings I have read. My perspective is that of someone in complete ignorance, groping around to get some idea of the state of affairs. I would like to see more critical analysis of the issues in net.nlang.india in the near future. Thanks. --Bapa Rao.