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From: martinl@molihp.UUCP (Martin M Lacey)
Newsgroups: net.physics
Subject: Re: Time travel/Star Trek/Asimov
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Date: Wed, 18-Dec-85 15:25:02 EST
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In article <1727@decwrl.UUCP> crimmin@tle.DEC (DTN 1-2015) writes:
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>Returning to the discusion on time-travel:
>
>Last night on Star Trek, Capt. Kirk and his crew were
>zapped into the past, where they approached a planet 
>they believed to be the Earth. [Like Buck Rogers in reverse.]
>
>The sketch recalls Isaac Asimov's science fiction, and the
>way he approaches the idea of time travel. In books like, The End of 
>Eternity, he envisions a parallel dimension wehre it is possible to step 
>outside of normal, causal time. In this dimension, called Eternity, 
>biological time continues, but it is possible to move to any point in
>real-world time and to step back in at that point if desired. 
>
>What about the idea of existing in another dimension that is
>independent of real-world time? Is it just a goofy idea, or does it suggest
>possibilities? 
>
>Piter (New Hampshire)

	Piter:

	I have often pondered such possiblities and discussed them
	with many of my more imaginary friends.  It has also been
	touched on by several time/space shows on BBS.

	My own thoughts are all basically prefixed by the *what if*
	clause.  It goes something like this:
	  Imagine my and your world (3D). 
	  Now imagin that you exist in a 2D world as a 2D object.
	   Everything would look fine to you, having only height
	   and width, as you do.  Now, you in your two dimentional
	   plane exist as a subset of many 2D worlds; each separate
	   entities.  This subset would be the 3D world you and I
	   live in.  We can manipulate each of these 2D *worlds*
	   by many means.  Now, a 2D creature exists on this plane
	   which we can pass through, being creature of 3D.  The
	   2D creature would se a hole (a nothingness) in his world
	   as we passed through it.
	  Now onto the superset of our dimention. Each moment in our
	   time is a discrete element in a superset dimension.  A being
	   exists in this *world* which has each moment of time as
	   an element to be viewed.  This means that at each moment in
	   our time, we are a point in a line for this superset.  This
	   creature can at any moment perturb any item of our time.
	  Now, an interesting thought is what if we could create a
	   join between two of these time frames, and walk through.
	   I suppose it would be possible to eliminate your own
	   existence; at least for the time line associated with the
	   time frame you came from.  But since you obviously exist
	   you must have perterbed more that one time frame, or
	   become a permanent part of the superset demention.

	   I *could* go on forever, but won't (Wild applause...).

	   Confusing, and very hard to imagin let alone refute.
	   But it is food for thought.

					Martin the Magician.