Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site eneevax.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!eneevax!velu From: velu@eneevax.UUCP (Velu Sinha) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Apartheid on the West Bank Message-ID: <443@eneevax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Dec-85 08:49:06 EST Article-I.D.: eneevax.443 Posted: Thu Dec 5 08:49:06 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Dec-85 20:56:31 EST References: <4188@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <360@ubvax.UUCP> Reply-To: velu@eneevax.UUCP (Velu Sinha) Organization: U of Maryland, EE Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 71 In article <963@homxb.UUCP> mr@homxb.UUCP (M.RINDSBERG) writes: >> In article <958@homxb.UUCP> mr@homxb.UUCP (M.RINDSBERG) writes: (actually, the >> text is from me, and not from Rindsberg) >> The implication that Arab countries are not members of our "civilized" >> society seems to be very inflamatory. Are you really meaning to say that > >Is terrorism accepted ? NO ! Why is it that most terrorists are arabs ? 40 years ago the number of terrorists who were Arabs was very small. What is the distinction between a Terrorist, a Freedom Fighter, and a Soldier? I do not mean to condone the acts which the terrorists have participated in. However, you must admit, if the US and Israel were slightly more compassionate, things could only get better. These relegious fanatics (not read Arabs) will die, and kill, without fear. This means that stopping them by not negotiating may not necessarily work. Why not TRY negotiating ? Israel knew full well when Hussain was to be in the US, they also knew that one of the major things on the Agenda was to be the discussion of the Palestinian Problem. In light of this, for Israel to go and bomb the PLO HQ in Tunis, was a slap in the face to ANY peace perogative. Even if the raid did accomplish its goals (and what seems to be the ISRAELI (now I am stereotyping, and as guilty as Martillo Ajemi, and M. Rindsberg) sorry, "what seems to be SOME Israeli's" efforts to eradicate the world of Palestinians, at least those with any leadership skills), it could have been performed the week before or the week after with less adverse effects! Look, this debate has been raging for weeks now, and will continue raging till the palestinians are given a homeland, and until many Jews stop believeing they are Gods Gift to Humanity. The Jews have as much right to exist in this world as do the Palestinians, and as do anyone else. However, when any group is given the privilidge of independence, especially in the VERY SPECIAL case of Israel (how many other times have lands been partitioned and given to a releigious/racial group to form an Independant nation in the history of Man?), it is expected that some exempelary behaviour will be shown. Granted, people need to defend themselves, and also granted that the initial palestinian stance was definitely arrogant, it should be the DUTY of the peoples involved to negotiate a solution. Every indication shows that the PLO is ready to take what ever is offered to it. I believe that if Israel, Jordan, and Lebanon could set a side a mutually (along the PLO, of course!) agreeable peace of land, the LARGE SCALE WAR would end. There will be minor incidents for many generations to come, but after a few generations, that too could hopefully end. >> Your comments make grave implications on the MORALITY of the Arabs, and >> their relegion, in general. A statement which I do not belive is accurate, >> and at best is VERY bigoted. > >Yes I do make grave implications on the morality of the arabs when during the >UN meetings they give resounding applause to known terrorists and killers. >mark The US delegates get up and clap whenever Marcos speaks. And they used to get up and clap when the Shah, or Samoza spoke. The arabs give no more resounding applause to their compatriots than does the US to its.