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From: matthews@harvard.UUCP (Jim Matthews)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: "We will bury you." -Khruschev
Message-ID: <551@harvard.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 12-Dec-85 15:04:58 EST
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Posted: Thu Dec 12 15:04:58 1985
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Organization: Aiken Comp Lab, Harvard
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In article <1920@psuvax1.UUCP> berman@psuvax1.UUCP (Piotr Berman) writes:
>> > > 
>> > > If the Soviets have murdered approximately 30 million
>> > > of their own folks in the 68 years since the Revolution
>> > > began
>
>Two points: 
>a.  Solzhenitsin estimates 20 million victims, not a biased 
>    pro-communist.  Let us not multiply the dead.
>
	Not to pick nits, but Solzhenitsin estimates *60* million
victims of Stalinism.  Roy Medvedev, a far more reasonable source,
estimates 20 million from Stalinism and 20 million from WWII (one
third to one half of which he attributes to Stalin's incompetence
and brutality as a military leader).  There are no good estimates
on the victims since 1956, but contrary to popular belief the Gulag
is still in operation.

Jim Matthews
matthews@harvard