Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ssc-bee.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ssc-bee!bmac3 From: bmac3@ssc-bee.UUCP (Scott Pilet) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: "We will bury you." -Khruschev Message-ID: <442@ssc-bee.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Dec-85 12:26:55 EST Article-I.D.: ssc-bee.442 Posted: Tue Dec 17 12:26:55 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Dec-85 17:51:30 EST References: <252@gargoyle.UUCP> <1951@akgua.UUCP> <1272@ames.UUCP> <13734@rochester.UUCP> <434@whuts.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 54 > Khruschev made public what people were afraid to admit to themselves: > namely the awful crimes which Stalin committed in sentencing millions > to labor camps and prisons. Indeed Khruschev turned Soviet policy > around to such an extent that Solzhenitsyn was granted the Lenin Prize > for Literature (the highest literary prize in the USSR) for > "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch" which depicts life in a > labor camp for a normal innocent but totally naive Soviet citizen. > (If you haven't read it, I would recommend it) > Could you elaborate how much of an extant Khruschev turned Soviet policy? Actions (not public statements), verifications of these actions, and then the sources supporting these actions? Have you read other books by Solzhenitsyn? What about his opposal to the type of thoughts you express concerning the Soviets and their policy towards the world? Have you heard of the "nomenklatura"? Do you believe a Soviet leader can radically depart from previous Soviet policy? > Some of the people in the government now were those sent to Labor camps > under Stalin. Those people do not wish to return to such a system. Please list these government people, their current positions in the Soviet government, an estimation of their power in the gov't and back up your assertions with sources. > After Khruschev was deposed When Khruschev was deposed, Kosygin and Breschnev pointed out what Khruschev did wrong. > however new less brutal methods of > repression to me any form of repression is brutal > were put into place: the use of psychiatric hospitals > to deal with dissent, exile and isolation, demotions from prestigious > posts. That the USSR is different now than in Stalin's time is > shown by the treatment accorded Khruschev himself: although he Khruschev is the only one to have been accorded such treatment, and such treatment is very rare. It is rare in the sense of political figures in general not only Presidents and General Secretaries > was ousted from power, he was allowed to continue living in his > dacha. Stalin, on the other hand, sent assassins halfway around the > world to kill his old rival, Trotsky. > > I am not about to condone actions such as breaking up the recent > vigil in Moscow commemorating the anniversary of the UN's Human > Rights declaration. But it is totally inaccurate to say that > nothing has changed in the Soviet Union since Stalin's time. > It is also totally inaccurate to imply that anything important has really changed in the Soviet Union since Stalin's time. > tim sevener whuxn!orb Scott Pilet