Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpg.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihlpg!tan From: tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Myers on nrh on "untrue propaganda" Message-ID: <1484@ihlpg.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Dec-85 02:05:06 EST Article-I.D.: ihlpg.1484 Posted: Wed Dec 18 02:05:06 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Dec-85 19:14:29 EST References: <4690@alice.UUCP> <1788@uwmacc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 30 > [Jeff Myers] > I also been faced during my brief existence with the > incontrovertible fact that the United States, since the Spanish-American > War, has gone out of its way to crush any truly progressive government it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > has been able to get its hands on. I'm willing to go into detail on any > of the following cases: the Philippines immediately following the joint > US-Filipino defeat of the Spanish; Chile in the early 1970's; Guatemala > in 1954; Nicaragua from the 1920's till the present; the Dominican Republic > in 1965; Vietnam from 1945-1975; Greece following WWII; Spain just before ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > WWII; Cuba from 1960 till the present; ad infinitum. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------- Cuba? Vietnam? Progressive? I'd have to admit that both Cuba and Vietnam have made a lot of progress. Progress in making a large number of their people want to live elsewhere. How can anyone take Jeff Myers' opinions about the Sandinistas seriously when we all can see what he truly admires? Of course, this does not imply that his facts and sources are necessarily wrong. However, seeing what a true believer Mr. Myers is, I find it difficult to give his opinions much credibility, at least when he talks about the Sandinistas. ------------------- > Don't you folks see the pattern here, or are you so a part of the pattern > that it's a part of you? ------------------- You mean the Cuba, Vietnam pattern, Jeff? -- Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL ihnp4!ihlpg!tan