Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuts.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuts!orb From: orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Russian quotes: John Birch Society?? Message-ID: <452@whuts.UUCP> Date: Thu, 19-Dec-85 17:58:37 EST Article-I.D.: whuts.452 Posted: Thu Dec 19 17:58:37 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Dec-85 21:55:56 EST References: <157@vu-vlsi.UUCP> <432@whuts.UUCP> <552@harvard.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 42 > A 1972 Soviet book > on military strategy dismissed the "bourgeois" notion that nuclear war was > unwinnable, or even unjust, when used for a progressive cause. I could go > on and on. > > Jim Matthews > matthews@harvard I cannot be sure of the book you are citing. However it is probably the same one which the proponents of "protracted nuclear war" have used to argue that the Soviets have written that they believe a nuclear war can be "won". The funny thing about that book as pointed out by Richard Scheer in "Reagan, Bush and Nuclear War" is that it cites *American* articles on planning to "win" a nuclear war. These articles came out some time in the 70's. There were one or two articles in Soviet strategic journals which later took up this absurd notion. This only makes sense: it would be completely ludicrous for any Soviet military expert to suggest they could somehow "win" a nuclear war when during the 50's the US could attack the USSR and the Soviets could not counterattack at all, when during the Cuban Missile Crisis the Soviets had less than 300 strategic warheads and the US had thousands. As I have pointed out before the notion of protracted nuclear war (which implies several beliefs: 1) that somehow there would be something left after full scale nuclear war that would be worth "defending" with more nuclear weapons and 2)that being able to continue launching nuclear weapons after a full-scale nuclear attack is worth spending billions and offers some sort of strategic advantage implying a "victory" in nuclear war) is in Pentagon plans for the future. The project involves digging tunnels or caves and burying nuclear missiles within them: the missiles would theoretically be totally bombproof but could only be used by digging them out for weeks or months. The US has never renounced the first use of nuclear weapons: therefore it is obvious that our current nuclear strategy assumes that such *first* use is neither unjust nor unwise. Defending the cause of Capitalism is therefore seen to be worth the destruction of the human species. tim sevener whuxn!orb