Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuts.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuts!orb From: orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Russian quotes: John Birch Society?? Message-ID: <453@whuts.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Dec-85 09:01:52 EST Article-I.D.: whuts.453 Posted: Fri Dec 20 09:01:52 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Dec-85 02:54:40 EST References: <157@vu-vlsi.UUCP> <432@whuts.UUCP> <552@harvard.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 41 > As for Krushchev, the Soviet Union > has threatened the West with nuclear annihilation on many occasions. First, I would like you to present *specific* instances in which the Soviet Union has threatened the first use of nuclear weapons. I believe there are probably such occasions: according to "Arsenal of Democracy" the US has threatened the use of nuclear weapons on numerous occasions in veiled diplomatic terms. I would imagine the Soviets have done the same. Second, obviously both sides are threatening the world with nuclear annihilation at *this very moment*. Otherwise there would be no point to each side adding 5 new warheads to their nuclear arsenals every day. On the other hand there are some concrete steps which can be taken to diminish this threat. It is surprising, and embarassing to the US, that the Soviet Union is currently taking the lead in several areas of arms control by unilaterally stopping all their nuclear testing and also all antisatellite weapons tests. Twenty years ago it was the US which took the lead when John F. Kennedy stopped US atmospheric nuclear tests in hopes the Soviets would respond and stop all atmospheric tests by both sides. Of course, as you are well aware Kennedy's unilateral moratorium on atmospheric testing led to the Limited Test Ban Treaty which has never been violated by either side. The Soviets have just offered to renew their current six-month ban on nuclear testing. Reagan has refused yet again. In the past Reagan said such a ban couldn't be verified: in the first place this is no objection since the ban would be very well verified after completing and formally ratifying the Comprehensive Test Ban treaty. Besides this the Soviets just offered to allow US inspections and monitoring to verify a bilateral test ban until such a treaty is formally ratified. Still Reagan refuses to stop nuclear testing. Why? There is only one reason: to continue building new and more dangerous nuclear weapons and to continue research into the nuclear-powered X-ray laser for Start Wars. I think any reasonable person must agree that stubbornly continuing to test *new* nuclear weapons when the other side has *stopped* *unilaterally* is utter insanity. But the Reagan administration is not sane. tim sevener whuxn!orb