Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uscvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!uscvax!kurtzman From: kurtzman@uscvax.UUCP (Stephen Kurtzman) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Jerry Falwell and Reagan Message-ID: <143@uscvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Dec-85 16:59:08 EST Article-I.D.: uscvax.143 Posted: Fri Dec 20 16:59:08 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Dec-85 21:05:35 EST References: <413@whuts.UUCP> <4665@alice.UUCP> <866@whuxl.UUCP> <1476@ihlpg.UUCP> <2274@burdvax.UUCP> Reply-To: kurtzman@usc-cse.UUCP (Stephen Kurtzman) Organization: CS&CE Depts, U.S.C., Los Angeles, CA Lines: 46 In article <2274@burdvax.UUCP> bnapl@burdvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) writes: > >As a minister of the Gospel, Falwell is called to speak God's truth to a >unbelieving world. You may not want to believe that disease (AIDS) is a >result of man's sinful condition, but clearly Falwell does and is compelled >to remind the world of this. It is one thing to believe that disease is the result of man's fall from grace. It is quite another to believe that God has targeted the homosexual community with a virus to kill them all. If this is what God has done then the maltheists on net.religion might be right. This pronouncement by Falwell sounds more like homophobia than the act of a loving God that died for our sins. This conclusion does not sound like Good News (Gospel). >I have never heard Falwell [attack] anyone as anti-american simply because >they disagree. That is funny. I have. I never miss an opportunity to see him "debate" an opponent. Part of his tactic is to act superior and smug, cast doubt on the fidelity of the opponent to God or country, and end just before saying the person is anti-american or heathen. If you require him to say "you are an anti-american" then maybe you never have heard the attack. All I require is for him to continually question the opponents patriotism. >Indeed, Ted Kennedy was received rather warmly at Liberty >Baptist College when he was there to speak. Kennedy and Falwell certainly >disagree politically, but I don't think he would consider the Senator >anti-american. Could Falwell get away with calling Kennedy an anti-american directly? I think he would lose credibility if he did so. By debating Kennedy and not attacking him directly, Falwell gains credibility. Instead of looking at this one instance, look at his actions in general; listen to what he says to people he feels he can attack with impunity. >You've been reading too much of what the liberal press says Falwell >believes rather than listening to what he really says. Wrong. I watch Falwell whenever I can catch him on a talk show. The next time he is on Phil Donohue watch the smarmy way he questions the godliness or patriotism of those that disagree. I also try to watch his Sunday television program at least once a month. I am always amazed at how a good 30 to 45 minutes of his TV religion hour is dedicated to fund raising and non-religious matters such as patronizing patriotism. You should watch that program and listen to him cast doubts on the fidelity of people with opposing points of view.