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From: tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: our neighbors
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Date: Wed, 25-Dec-85 01:31:47 EST
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> >For that matter, I've never heard of Canadians being
> >against Americans because of the War of 1812.
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> Probably because Americans are only taught one side of the War of 1812
> (as would be true of most wars in most countries of course) and are
> generally extremely ignorant of Canadian history of all kinds.  Of course
> it was a long time ago and the last 100 years of peace have outweighed it
> as a factor in modern politics, but *historically* it was very important.
> Canada retained a link with Britain longer than they might otherwise have
> done because they had been massively invaded by their much larger neighbor
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> *several* times between 1776 and 1869.  The War of 1812 is the best example.
> Yet Walter Cronkite et. al. go on saying that "The United States never lost
> a war until Vietnam."  
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Perhaps Walter et. al. go on saying it because it is true.  Not winning
is not the same as losing.  We (the U. S.) didn't really win in Korea
either.
By the way, I am not aware of any massive U. S. invasions of Canada
other than during the Revolutionary War and during the War of 1812.
(In both wars, the invasions went in BOTH directions.)
If there were any others, I would appreciate being enlightened.
I know there were several boundary disputes (northern Maine - New
Brunswick, for one), but massive invasions?  Sounds like your
biases are showing.

	54-40 or fight!-)-)

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Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL  ihnp4!ihlpg!tan