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From: john@cisden.UUCP (John Woolley)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: "Reds" vs "fascists":Reagan's remarks
Message-ID: <351@cisden.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 27-Dec-85 12:21:05 EST
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Posted: Fri Dec 27 12:21:05 1985
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In article <449@whuts.UUCP> orb@whuts.UUCP (SEVENER) defends his habit
of calling President Reagan a "fascist" by writing, among other things:

>You probably are unaware of our Presidents remarks which stirred a storm
>in Spain.  After leaving Spain, while in Portugal Reagan said that
>he doesn't *always* support "freedom fighters" like the terrorists
>in Nicaragua: for example he said he did *not* support the Lincoln
>Brigade of Americans fighting against Franco's fascism.  Since Spain
>just recently returned to democracy after years of oppression under
>Franco this was not greatly appreciated.
> 
>But I suppose it shows quite plainly just *whose* side the extreme
>rightwing represented by Kemp and Reagan really stands for:
>given the choice between a democratically elected socialist government
>and fascism they'll go for fascism every time.

Well, netters, we've finally got a fix on exactly what Sevener's
political stance is.  Read that above, and follow the logic of it.  A
man says he did not support one side in a (long-ago) war.  Tim Sevener
concludes from this that the man must have the same politics as the 
people on the other side of the war.  (Reagan did not support the
Communists -- therefore he is a Fascist.)  Sevener actually says this.

So, Mr. Sevener, let's apply the same reasoning, *your* reasoning, to
yourself.  You did not (do not) support the United States' efforts
against the Soviets in 1918, right?  You don't support Hitler's invasion
of Russia, do you?  Therefore, your politics must be the same as the
Soviets'.  And you, therefore (just as Reagan, by your "logic", is a
Fascist), are not a "liberal", not a "socialist", not even a "leftist",
but a Stalinist, a Communist, a supporter of genocide and terrorism and 
the Gulag.  

I'm sure glad we got this cleared up.  When are you and your friends in
the Kremlin going to stop murdering people, Mr. Sevener?  (Or at least,
when are you going to learn to use words like "Fascist" correctly?)
-- 
				Peace and Good!,
				      Fr. John Woolley
"The heart has its reasons that the mind does not know." -- Blaise Pascal