Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpa.UUCP
Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihlpa!jho
From: jho@ihlpa.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen)
Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion,net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: Arab tolerance (and the Jews) (really DISINFORMATION)
Message-ID: <970@ihlpa.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 29-Dec-85 04:22:51 EST
Article-I.D.: ihlpa.970
Posted: Sun Dec 29 04:22:51 1985
Date-Received: Sun, 29-Dec-85 20:45:00 EST
References: <460@mhuxm.UUCP> <740@whuxl.UUCP> <10822@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Lines: 84
Xref: lsuc net.politics:2648 net.religion:588 net.religion.jewish:1739

From Chedley Aouriri:

>Your statistics are WRONG! You are using them to DISINFORM and to
>fuel your own hatred of Arabs, your "natural enemies", so to
>speak. 
>Let me correct you on at least one item : The jewish population in
>Tunisia today is at least 5,000 ...

I made one typing insignificant error, the other numbers are OK.  
I agree, there are few thousand Jews in Tunisia.  The overall
statistical picture is that prior to 1948 there were about
800,000 Jews in Arab countries.  Today, there are less than
50,000.  I think these numbers reflects the fact that most Jews
found it intolerable to live in Arab countries for reasons of 
fear and discrimination.  Obviously, the treatment of Jews varied 
from one Arab country to another.

>This brings another theme which is very hard for jews - and
>especially the pro-zionists and pro-Israeli jews - to comprehend:
>Arabs generally are not anti-semitic, nor anti-jews. THEY ARE ANTI-
>ISRAELI. AND FOR GOOD REASONS.

You accused me of fueling hate (by presenting facts).  But let see who 
is really spreading hate.  I will give you some examples of quotes from
Arab text books.  Books used to educate the young Arab generation.

The following quotes are from official Syrian school books,
published by the Syrian Ministry of Education and Instruction.

	From "The Religious Ordinance Reader"
	     Damascus 1963-1964
	a book for a second year junior high school 

        (translation from Arabic)

	Enenies of Mankind
	The Jews are scattered to the end of the earth, where they
	lived exiled and despised, since by nature they are vile,
	greedy and enemies of mankind, by their nature they were
	tempted to steal a land as asylum for their disgrace (p 138).

If this is not anti-Semitism then what is anti-Semitism?  Now lets
look at another Syrian school book.

	BASIC SYNTAX AND SPELLING
	for fifth year elementary school

	(translation from Arabic)

	Exercise: `We Shall Expel the Jews'

	Analyze the following sentences:
	1.  The merchant himself traveled to the African continent
	2.  We shall expel all the Jews from Arab countries.

Note, the above is a syntax and spelling school book!  It is not
a religious or a history text book.  Yet, even here we see
teaching for hatred of the Jews.  It is no wonder that the
PLO terrorists who have been raised on this type of material since
childhood have murdered the elderly and crippled Jew, Mr. Klinghofer.
I have brought some examples of Syrian school books.  Similar examples 
are available from other Arab countries.

>The public hanging of a jew in Irak is a famous example of a
>successful spy who tripped. The hanged guy penetrated the top
>brass of the irakian army, government and business elite. He
>operated for the Israeli intelligence for about 4 years before
>he was discovered. (These are israel's own public recognitions). 

Mr. Aouriri has accused me of making an insignificant statistical
error.  Yet, he is confusing (or trying to misinform) the facts. The 
spy that Mr. Aouriri referring to is Mr. Eli Cohen, an Israeli agent
who was planted as a mole in Syria, not in Iraq, by Israeli intelligence.
Mr. Cohen penetrated the highest echelons of the Syrian army and government.  
Eventually, he was caught and hanged.  In my previous posting, I 
specifically wrote about the execution of nine Jews who were hanged in
a central square of Baghdad on trumped-up charges of espionage for 
Israel.  These Jews, members of a tiny Iraqi Jewish community, were
citizens of Iraq (not Israel or Syria).  This barbaric act of multiple
public hanging of Jews was designed to gain internal public support for
the Iraqi regime.
-- 
Yosi Hoshen, AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois,  Mail: ihnp4!ihlpa!jho