Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site burdvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!bnapl From: bnapl@burdvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Marxism; Yugoslav style // to Brian Mahoney Message-ID: <2282@burdvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-Jan-86 11:27:18 EST Article-I.D.: burdvax.2282 Posted: Thu Jan 2 11:27:18 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jan-86 00:51:59 EST References: Reply-To: bnapl@burdvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) Organization: Burroughs Corp. - SDG/Devon Lines: 56 In article mahoney@bach.DEC writes: > >>Stalinism is merely pragmatic Marxism. >> > > If you belive this then you don't know anything about commiunism or > Stalinism. Stalinism is more facism nazism then anything else. Marx believed that state terrorism was an appropriate tool to use in carrying out the ideals of his philosophy. Stalin was simply using all the available methods. Stalin was a Marxist, just like Khrushchev, et. al. > >>Show me one communist government that isn't bad and I'll eat my >>copy of Das Kapital. Communism is, by definition, bad government. > > How about Yugoslavia from what I have seen and read about this country > things are pretty good. You don't have mass migration (people can leave > if they wish there are no travel restrictions.) . The borders are open > as tourism is there #1 industry. This country is probably the closest > country to Marxism there is but still it is not there either. > You can't possibly compare the few "freedoms" that a country such as Yugoslavia has when compared with its neighbors in western Europe. Yugoslavia has 1 million unemployed, 80% inflation and owes about $19 billion to western banks. Their economy may not be bankrupt, but they're a fine example of a debtor nation. If there is any good in the government it's because they have allowed some capitalist ideas to creep into the economy. There is no revolution of the proletariat going on in Yugoslavia or any other eastern block country. > I hope that you enjoy your book maybe medium rare would be good. > One other thing the US has always supported Yugoslavia and Tito who > never hid the fact that he was a communist. > > Brian Mahoney I'm not about to fire up the barbeque just yet. BTW, Deng Xio Ping didn't get Time's Man-of-the-Year award for being a hardcore Marxist. Things are changing for the better in China because of capitalist influences and tendencies (albeit, on a small scale). -- / / / Tom Albrecht Burroughs Corp. ===/ / /=== ...{presby|psuvax1|sdcrdcf}!burdvax!bnapl ===/ / /=== (215)341-4656 ===/ / /=== CompuServe: 72626,2550 / / / "That's the news from Lake Wobegon ... "