Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!cmcl2!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Force is Unreasonable, still Message-ID: <840@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 4-Dec-85 16:58:32 EST Article-I.D.: mmintl.840 Posted: Wed Dec 4 16:58:32 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 10-Dec-85 21:50:06 EST References: <1497@hound.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 18 In article <1497@hound.UUCP> rwsh@hound.UUCP (R.STUBBLEFIELD) writes: >What is the epistemological status of the whim of the threatener? Where is >its tie to reality? Are all products of consciousness equivalent? Are whims >the same as reason? Can the threatener survive on whims without you? >You know that your own emotions do not give you truth. Why should someone >else's emotions do so? Why do you assume that another person's resort to force is based on whim? It may equally be based on his exercize of reason. Why, then, cannot he use argument to convince you instead of force? Because his reasons are based on his objective desires (such as his desire to continue living), which you do not necessarily share. You give reasons for not wanting others to use force against you, but none whatsoever for not using force against others. Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108