Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Tom Tedrick) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Anti-Semitism and history Message-ID: <11213@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Thu, 12-Dec-85 04:14:09 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.11213 Posted: Thu Dec 12 04:14:09 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Dec-85 06:32:55 EST References: <4188@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <360@ubvax.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 25 Xref: lsuc net.politics:2408 net.politics.theory:655 >5. Jews were anti-militaristic (this easily follows from 1-4). In a > militaristic age, anti-militarism incurred resentment from the > walking wounded of Europe's wars. I suspect this is a myth. I read an attempted refutation of this idea in "Germany without Jews" by Bernt Engelmann, which gives examples of very excellent military achievements by various Jews. Even some German military figures had Jewish blood, including Field Marshall Milch of the Luftwaffe (who was too valuable to lose despite being Jewish), Heydrich himself (who had a Jewish grandparent, and conceived and began the implementation of the "final solution" before being assasinated), and possibly even Hitler (there is a good chance that one of his grandparents was Jewish). Today the Israeli military forces are qualitatively the finest in the world. Let me finish with a story: a close friend of mine happens to be Jewish. Her grandfather served with the Austrian army in WWI. He was wounded and spent a long time in a Russian prisoner of war camp. He was finally released. After Hitler took over, he was put in a concentration camp and killed along with almost all of my friend's relatives.