Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!csd2!sykora From: sykora@csd2.UUCP (Michael Sykora) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Politics and Ethics--Socialism, Libertarianism, and Capitalism Message-ID: <4340011@csd2.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Dec-85 22:17:00 EST Article-I.D.: csd2.4340011 Posted: Fri Dec 13 22:17:00 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Dec-85 19:26:32 EST References: <1547@hound.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 29 >/* lkk@teddy.UUCP / 4:48 pm Dec 11, 1985 */ >Certainly raw materials (minerals, wood) are neccessary for >production. Who created them? I wouldn't include these in my definition of "means" of production. In any case, however, it is important to distinguish between raw materials in a state of nature versus raw materials that have been removed from nature (e.g., minerals embedded in the earth vs. minerals that have been mined). >We can't produce things without food, which is grown in the land. Who >created the land? Since no one created the land, the question of whop should own it obviously cannot be answered by recourse to the question, "who created it?", but perhaps we should consider who enhanced it? We produce things in factories. Who created them? The owners? All by themselves? If people create things by themselves, they should have the right to do with them as they wish, including transferring ownership rights. The owners purchased the factory or purchased the services of those who created the factory, and are therefore entitled to do with it as they wish. >Larry Kolodney (INTERNET) lkk@mit-mc.arpa Michael Sykora