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From: sykora@csd2.UUCP (Michael Sykora)
Newsgroups: net.politics.theory
Subject: Re: Extent of hunger in America
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Date: Sat, 14-Dec-85 18:06:00 EST
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Posted: Sat Dec 14 18:06:00 1985
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>/* tedrick@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Tom Tedrick) /  4:46 am  Dec 12, 1985 */

> . . . what is needed is social reform
>rather than volunteer work.

What is "social reform?"

>You don't see such things
>in intelligently run countries like Denmark, Austria,
>Norway, and Sweden.

Perhaps not, but the people (or the people in power) in those countries
may heve a different set of priorities than those here.

In any case, the US, for the most part, isn't "run," intelligently or
otherwise.  Running is appropriate for machines, not countries.

>The condition of those
>people is absolutely deplorable, and it is a national disgrace
>to allow this situation to exist.

Why should anyone who did not cauuse these circumstances to come about
feel disgrace?  Is it our responsibility to help them?  Why?

>Oh, about Richard Carnes. I have seen several flames directed
>at him lately. In my opinion he is the single most intelligent
>and interesting contributor to the net.

I think he's one of the most intelligent contributors also.  So what?

Michael Sykora