Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site ubvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!amd!amdcad!cae780!ubvax!tonyw From: tonyw@ubvax.UUCP (Tony Wuersch) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: defining racism -- Laura on compassi Message-ID: <391@ubvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 19-Dec-85 16:11:18 EST Article-I.D.: ubvax.391 Posted: Thu Dec 19 16:11:18 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Dec-85 20:44:56 EST References: <336@l5.UUCP> <28200398@inmet.UUCP> Reply-To: tonyw@ubvax.UUCP (Tony Wuersch) Organization: Ungermann-Bass, Inc., Santa Clara, Ca. Lines: 170 (Begin self-crit) I apologize if I stepped on some exposed nerves in my previous article, which looks to me in retrospect like part flame and part argument, in a wrong balance. Unfortunately, I tend to write while relaxed in a more aggressive manner than good discussion on this net should have, and then I forget to edit or lack the mood at the moment to do so. I am starting to change my views about Eastern Europe and the USSR as a result of another topic, but I still think what I wrote on racism is valid. (End self-crit) I don't think anti-semitism has much to do with people's psychology; as I've written in a past article, I think it has more to do with the definitions of nation historically developed by states which did not include Jews as a protected group. Lack of social and state protection assured that Jewish social status would decline, because national medias and institutions saw no reason to spread positive messages about Jewish accomplishments. It became easy for people to setup Jews as enemies because no institution would stop them. By "state" I don't just mean official national institutions; I also mean what a citizenry thinks a nation or important groups in a nation are. In "Western" states, what the citizenry believes takes on more importance and less importance than in "Eastern" states. More importance in normal social life, because there is freedom to organize according to what one believes. Less importance in official political life, since there is a structure of rights which holds an official state from acting on behalf of citizen beliefs when those beliefs conflict with rights. Anti-semitism is a specific case of racism. I think most racism follows the lines of just what I've described above for historical anti-semitism: because of the organization of popular opinion and national institutions, bad news about the victimized would spread and add to popular information, while good news about the victimized would get bottled up by intent or because people didn't think it significant or interesting. The only "psychology" involved, I'd suggest, is that people follow what they believe and commonly know to be the case. And people remember selectively, saving what fits their beliefs and already accumulated opinions (which could be very complex and flexible), while letting the rest fall thru the cracks. *** A BRIEF DIVERSION ON COMPASSION *** What is compassion? Seems to me that "compassion" means the following: (p) is a person in need, (p) needs help, and I feel bound to, or I want to, help (p). I think that (p) has a right to assistance which I know others might not agree that (p) has, so I am going to do my best part to help (p) live as if (p) had this right for real. And I am not going to advocate that (p) be given this right, apart from suggesting that other individuals like myself be compassionate too. This sounds very complex to me, but it encompasses what I think is a complete description of compassion. I'm offering it up to critique. Ronald Reagan talks about compassion and private charity frequently; this is what I for one think he means. Now, I can't but cry at its self-limitations. For instance, if one is compassionate to the homeless, does that mean that one should *demand* that homeless people be *guaranteed* decent shelter by the public authority? Not necessarily at all. Reaganite Republicans can be compassionate to the homeless because they think the homeless should have no place in the Reaganite social system, that the Reaganite social system should *never* guarantee people decent shelter. Compassion to the poor has nothing to do with the distribution of public funds, whose use for social welfare purposes is fundamentally illegitimate. And it has little to do with the spread or decline of the poor. It's mostly a salve for thin-skinned social darwinists. I believe I'm just being consistent with my distaste for this kind of doublethink when I write that I don't believe in compassion as a useful social remedy for racism. *** END OF DIVERSION *** There are more "psychological" theories than mine. Laura's (broadened by Jan), sounds too Freudian for me to swallow. A social opportunism of the id does not cover most serious examples of racism: >[Laura Creighton sun!l5!laura (that is ell-five, not fifteen)] >>... what I believe happens is that people have a great well >>of frustration and hatred inside them. They look for socially acceptable >>ways to dump this and find out that thhe bottom line is ``is is bad to >>hate people, except for Gays/Blacks/Orientals/Vietnamese/What-have-you''. >>So they go out and hate people in group X, not because they have any >>real dislike of group X but because they finally have found a role in >>which they can hate. The problem with this is that most modern racism has little to do with frustration at all. If companies screen out blacks from entry-level jobs because many blacks lack work skills or because the average US black performance on educational tests is lower than whites, these motivations show either a bad understanding of how statistics apply to individuals or a pragmatic understanding of the high costs of interviewing. Since this kind of screening is a labeling of individuals according to skin color, it's a classical racist activity. If a company rejects a black as a salesman in the South, for an entry level job, does frustration lead it to do so? Maybe its customers could be expected to not like blacks, and the company is afraid that dislike would reflect on it and its products. Pure racism, to me. Was the paternalism of Gone With the Wind a consequence of frustration and hatred? Or just common opinion about the appropriate place for blacks? Racism again. If a black family comes into a neighborhood and common wisdom is that the movement of black families precedes larger movements and eventual rundown of a community and spread of crime, is resisting that family a sign of frustration and hatred? Racism again. I'd contend that the only racism the above theory might explain is the resentment-against-the-world-as-a-whole type of racism characteristic of the KKK or Aryan Nations -- not unimportant, but not pervasive either. Should one's stance towards common wisdom, as manifested by regular people, businesses, communities, and institutions, be compassionate? Use any definition of compassionate you like. >Hatred and frustration are basic, racism (or homophobia or reli- >gious bigotry etc.) is an outlet for them. Close one outlet, and >some good may be done because people don't *exercise* their capa- >city for hatred so much; but it only helps if the deep wells of >frustration are exhausted. Otherwise, new outlets will be found, >as bad or worse as the old ones. > >It is the Manichaean view of the world, acquired in formative >years; it is the passion for invidious *comparisons* that is >responsible: "we are poor *because* others are rich" ; or "we are >the good guys *because* we are not like the bad guys". > >Children have a great capacity to *enjoy* differences, proved by >their love for *animals*. If they can only be taught to enjoy a >person of different race, religion or social class, as much as >they enjoy a squirrel or an elephant - social harmony won't be far >away. > > Jan Wasilewsky Jan's point about children sounds foolish to me. Children have a great capacity to exploit difference, proved by their exploitation of other children. Which example is more relevant, loving animals or mistreating different children? (Maybe neither -- most children grow out of both) Still, my point is that most racism is not the racism of the frustrated, but the racism of all those who are well-informed about popular national public opinion, and who accept a solely national view as true. (An international view about national delusions cuts down on this junk.) For most people, especially those that claim to be educated, should we feel compassion for their ignorance? Is compassion even the right word to use for what is needed to end most racism? I'd say NO. Tony Wuersch {amdcad!cae780 or amd!}!ubvax!tonyw