Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site l5.uucp Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!pesnta!pyramid!decwrl!sun!l5!laura From: laura@l5.uucp (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Reason gets no respect from Berman Message-ID: <382@l5.uucp> Date: Mon, 30-Dec-85 15:59:20 EST Article-I.D.: l5.382 Posted: Mon Dec 30 15:59:20 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 2-Jan-86 19:49:55 EST References: <1538@hound.UUCP> <1671@cbsck.UUCP> <334@l5.uucp> <709@spar.UUCP> <350@l5.uucp> <951@mmintl.UUCP> Reply-To: laura@l5.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 33 In article <951@mmintl.UUCP> franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) writes: > >If the sense in which you are using value does not permit you to ever act >against the thing you value, then you can value only that one thing. >Because whatever else you might value, it is possible that you will have >to choose between the two. > This I do not buy. I think that this is only true if you values certain very strict ends. Do you value your money more than a new car is a definite choice. But if you value a way of being then you have a great deal of flexibility without the necessity to choose between alternatives. Part of valuing reason for me is because I can use it to understand why I sometimes feel that I have to choose between terrible alternatives. I can often discover that what I want becomes clear because I was not thinking clearly when i thought that I wanted something. A common mistake I make is to think that I want *something* when what I really want is *to deserve something*. When I remember this, a lot of disappointment goes away. Sure, i would like to have had that job, but the person who was hired was better than I was and deserves the job. Can I persist in wanting it while realising that this would mean that I want for someone better qualified than I to go without...nope. Aha -- I thought that I wanted a job, and what I wanted was to deserve a job. Reason is wonderful if you consistently apply it. You get rid of a lot of frustration through understanding. And nearly all apparant conflicts go away under its application. What I find left is injustice. -- Laura Creighton sun!l5!laura (that is ell-five, not fifteen) l5!laura@lll-crg.arpa