Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittatc!decvax!cca!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Reason gets no respect from Berman Message-ID: <28200463@inmet.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Dec-85 23:06:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.28200463 Posted: Mon Dec 30 23:06:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 3-Jan-86 05:38:58 EST References: <1538@hound.UUCP> Lines: 26 Nf-ID: #R:hound:-153800:inmet:28200463:000:1276 Nf-From: inmet!janw Dec 30 23:06:00 1985 [Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka] >First, a question: do you value yourself because of your ability to reason, >or do you value your ability to reason because you value yourself? If >the answer is the former, then your basic principle is not selfishness; >it is love of reason. I will assume the latter for the remainder of this. Now that I re-read several of Laura's responses, I feel that the *former* is much nearer to her point of view. The basic motive *is* love of reason. This attitude may be rightly called rational *selfishness* for two reasons: (1) someone who holds it is necessarily rational, therefore has something to love in herself; (2) one knows the operations of one's own reason far more completely and intimately than anyone else's: hence, a tendency to love oneself first. How- ever, it would follow that if one gets convinced someone else's reason far exceeds one's own; and if one somehow obtains an inti- mate knowledge of its workings; then one may (selfish or not) love another *more* than oneself. I wonder if Laura agrees with this, and with this interpretation of her views in general. I also wonder what she thinks of Spinoza whose ethical teaching seems to have a lot in common with hers. Jan Wasilewsky