Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!cmcl2!csd2!sykora From: sykora@csd2.UUCP (Michael Sykora) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: The free market (and lemons) Message-ID: <4340033@csd2.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-Jan-86 08:02:00 EST Article-I.D.: csd2.4340033 Posted: Thu Jan 2 08:02:00 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jan-86 02:45:08 EST References: <589@calgary.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 48 >/* franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) / 8:05 am Dec 27, 1985 */ >>We must not consider whether some good came out of government policies, >>but whether net good came out of them. If that is what you are saying, >>then clearly this is an unproiven assumption. >Strictly speaken, it is unproven; but I think it is pretty obvious. I am talking about individual policies, not whether it is better to have a government or not at all. In the case of eminent domain I'll admit you may be right (though I disagree), but it is hardly obvious. Do you really know that much about the history of eminent domain. >The need for roads has been recognized by the vast majority of the population >for a long time. I don't see how you can deny this. Roads yes. Public road-building, not necessarily. In any case, the fact that a need is "recognized" by few or many does not necessarily indicate that there is in fact a need. >We are talking about the prisoner's dilemma here. Everyone is better off if >the roads are there, but each individual is worse off if they contribute to >building them. I don't think that's clear at all. In some cases they would be worse off, in others better. It's very difficult to generalize about such a thing. >Also, by local roads, I mean everything but expressways. Local roads are >not used only by local people. True, but they may be predominantly used by local people. Also, major users of local roads are those who provide services for local residents. >What is "electronic road-pricing"? What roads are they planning to apply >it to? I don't remember that the article indicated this, but let's assume it's for major highways. In the future, however, it might be applied to local roads. >Assuming it is some sort of "use now, pay later" system, Hong Kong has a >great advantage in having essentially all domestic traffic. Cars driven >in Hong Kong are either driven by a local owner, or rented locally. So? >Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Mike Sykora