Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Roads And Telephony Message-ID: <28200496@inmet.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Jan-86 21:40:00 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.28200496 Posted: Wed Jan 1 21:40:00 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jan-86 22:13:20 EST References: <343@ihnet.UUCP> Lines: 55 Nf-ID: #R:ihnet:-34300:inmet:28200496:000:2558 Nf-From: inmet!janw Jan 1 21:40:00 1986 [ Karl Dahlke ihnp4!ihnet!eklhad] [an extremely lucid and informative piece on natural monopolies in roads and communications by Karl Dahlke] Some statements, however, are made or implied but not substantiated. >Some have demanded a controlled experiment, but I could not accept >the costs and risks associated with such an experiment, Why do you think there are any costs - and costs to whom ? The experiment would consist in *changing the rules* over a certain area (like a state) - obviously on a voluntary basis. The im- mediate result would be *gain* - less taxes - to the local ci- tizens; and *no loss* to the government (it would save on road building). The long term result would be loss (bad roads) - or gain to the state, depending on success or failure.. Thus, there is a *risk*, but also a chance of gain, i.e. a *gamble*, but a voluntary one (well, at least on the part of local *majority*). >while there are no theoretical arguments favoring private control of roads. There are *some*. First, government intervention *in itself* is a social evil, ir- respective of economic results. Thus, even somewhat *inferior* economic performance might not be too great a cost to get rid of the Big Brother. Second, it usually costs the government twice as much to do any- thing. Why doesn't that include road building and maintenance ? Then again, toll roads can be exploited more rationally - e.g. lower toll off peak hours, thus encouraging better traffic condi- tions. A private company - even a monopoly - would have a market incentive to find such cost-saving solutions. >Why should this monopoly be handled privately while others are not? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This begs the question: why shouldn't *all* natural monopolies be private and *unregulated* ? In your own excellent expose, you described how a phone company would keep its monopolistic position - through *low rates*. Well, let it ! Finally, in a surge of intellectual honesty, let me throw in an argument for the other side: historically, good road systems do correlate with centralized governments. (E.g., Roman and Inca Em- pires). European feudalism, though highly progressive economical- ly, had a dismal record on roads. (On bridges, not bad at all). The reasons, however, seem obvious: such road systems helped maintain centralized control and were built by those who wanted such control, opposed by those who didn't. These reasons are hardly valid now. Jan Wasilewsky