Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!bet From: bet@ecsvax.UUCP (Bennett E. Todd III) Newsgroups: net.puzzle Subject: Re: someone asked why weightless ... Message-ID: <971@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Dec-85 15:51:21 EST Article-I.D.: ecsvax.971 Posted: Fri Dec 20 15:51:21 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Dec-85 01:30:04 EST References: <96@decwrl.DEC.COM> <970@ecsvax.UUCP> Reply-To: duccpc!bet@ecsvax.UUCP (Bennett E. Todd III) Distribution: net Organization: Duke University Computation Center Lines: 30 In article <970@ecsvax.UUCP> dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) writes: >If you're in the space shuttle orbiting 300 miles up, the acceleration >of gravity is very little less than it is at the surface. If weight = >mass X acceleration, how can you be "weightless"? First off, let us define acceleration as the second derivative of position with respect to time. So what's position? You know, spatial coordinates. There's where you get into trouble in this one -- an object in free fall is weightless *in it's local reference frame* -- a falling rock wouldn't normally be called weightless; the taken-for-granted reference frame for falling objects is the "outside" world, against which they are falling. Space ships, by finding a ballistic trajectory which doesn't intersect the surface of the Earth, can keep falling for a good while, and with their size, make an interesting reference frame in their own right. Thus "weightlessness". On the other hand, the gravitation attraction of the Earth is indeed still important; if it weren't then the craft wouldn't orbit, it would head elsewhere to frolic. So in the reference frame of the Earth the satellite is not in fact weightless; it weighs something less than what it does on the surface of the Earth, and its weight is its mass times the acceleration it is suffering to keep it in orbit. -Bennett -- "Hypocrisy is the vaseline of social intercourse." (Who said that?) Bennett Todd -- Duke Computation Center, Durham, NC 27706-7756; (919) 684-3695 UUCP: ...{decvax,seismo,philabs,ihnp4,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!duccpc!bet