Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utcsri.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!hofbauer From: hofbauer@utcsri.UUCP (John Hofbauer) Newsgroups: net.rec.photo Subject: Re: camera rip-off scam Message-ID: <1845@utcsri.UUCP> Date: Sat, 21-Dec-85 16:56:46 EST Article-I.D.: utcsri.1845 Posted: Sat Dec 21 16:56:46 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Dec-85 17:43:07 EST References: <106@decwrl.DEC.COM> Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 44 > A few weeks ago my wife got an interesting phone call during the > day. It was a pre-recorded "film usage survey" that asked questions > like: > how many rolls of film do you shoot per year? > what kind of film do you use? > what kind of camera do you have? > what is your phone number again so we can send you 10 free rolls > of Kodak film? > > I thought it was kind of strange that anybody would send me free film, > especially 10 rolls, but I just kind of ignored it. We never got > any free rolls of film... > > Two days ago our house was broken into and all my camera equipment and one > jewelry box that was near it in the bedroom closet were stolen. > The value of the stolen equipment was about $2000. (My Leica and > 5 lenses). > > So is there a connection? And how did they get my name? Well, I usually The phone number is the connection. There exist business directories which give much more information than the standard phone directory. One's that I've seen are organized like the phone directory but also give a person's occupation as well as address and phone number, and have sections which divide the city into lots of tiny sectors and give useful statistical info like average house price and income. Lastly they have an inverted phone number list so that given the phone number you can find a person's name and address. These directories cost several hundred dollars and are generally sold to businesses for obvious, legitimate purposes. Invariably the local public library also has a copy. I have often used those to find out basic info on people... An interesting aside... I have had an unlisted phone number for many years. When I checked my entry in such a business directory I didn't find one. Furthermore, once every so often a card is dropped into my mail slot from an organization which publishes these directories asking for info. Again, their activity is legitimate and above board but I have never replied. Consequently I don't exist as far as they are concerned. We are seldom bothered by telephone solicitation... I like to think there is a connection. Scams like this have all sorts of variations. A favourite is to send people "free tickets" and then rip them off while they are enjoying their prize. In reverse, this has become popular with law enforcement agencies as a sting for capturing wanted criminals.