Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!darrelj From: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Newsgroups: net.rec.photo Subject: Re: Wide angle lens question Message-ID: <2552@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-Jan-86 12:47:38 EST Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.2552 Posted: Thu Jan 2 12:47:38 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 3-Jan-86 08:25:09 EST References: <174@decwrl.DEC.COM> Reply-To: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Organization: System Development Corporation R&D, Santa Monica Lines: 45 Summary: viewfinders distort In article <174@decwrl.DEC.COM> bennison@clt.DEC (Victor Bennison - DTN 381-2156) writes: >--- >... I'm curious about some things. All my >Nikon lenses, the above mentioned and my 50mm f1.8 series E, exhibit >noticable pincushion (is that the right term?). ...line >exactly along the bottom of the viewfinder, it arches slightly into >viewfinder in the middle. Is this normal? I note that my Kiron >28-85 f2.8 when set at the 28mm setting exhibits NO noticable >pincushion. Should I be really impressed with my Kiron? I thought >Nikkor lenses were supposed to be great lenses. Am I confused or >what? This prompted a quick experiment with a Nikon FE2, Nikkormat FTN and ground glass in the film plane. Results: a Nikkor 28/2.8 showed noticable pincushion in the FE2 finder, slight pincushion in the Nikkormat finder and almost none at the film plane (even a 135/2.8 Nikkor shows pincushion in the FE2 finder!! and tele's seldom have such problems). I suspect a combination of framing mask which is not in the same plane as the focusing screen and the strong lenses used to bring most of the light to your eye. >I do notice that the Nikkor 28mm is brighter then the Kiron at the >28mm setting. Am I correct in assuming that f2.8 refers to the SIZE of the >opening and that the brightness is a function of how much glass is between >the light meter and the subject? Yes, the f stop is the ratio of the effective light gathering aperature to focal length. In extreme lens designs, there may be no real aperature of that size, only the projection of a virtual aperature that size. Lenses T stop (transmission based speed) varies from the real F stop for a number of reasons: large number of elements (with attendant reflection loss), extent of lens coating, manufacturers' rounding biases (e.g. suppose it's really 2.93 --would you call that 2.8 or 3.2 standard marking). Even age of lens design may: before wide use of TTL meters, there was a tendency to round smaller to compensate for other losses. > > Vick Bennison > ...decvax!decwrl!rhea!tools!bennison > (603) 881-2156 -- Darrel J. Van Buer, PhD System Development Corp. 2525 Colorado Ave Santa Monica, CA 90406 (213)820-4111 x5449 ...{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,orstcs,sdcsvax,ucla-cs,akgua} !sdcrdcf!darrelj VANBUER@USC-ECL.ARPA