Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site mako.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!orca!mako!jans From: jans@mako.UUCP (Jan Steinman) Newsgroups: net.rec.ski Subject: Re: X-C ski equipment Message-ID: <983@mako.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Dec-85 18:12:21 EST Article-I.D.: mako.983 Posted: Mon Dec 16 18:12:21 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Dec-85 03:43:11 EST References: <1937@zehntel.UUCP> Reply-To: jans@mako.UUCP (Jan Steinman) Distribution: net Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 40 Summary: In article <1937@zehntel.UUCP> davel@zehntel.UUCP (David Longerbeam) writes: >I am considering buying some backcountry equipment... I have heard >various arguments against some of the heavier touring bindings... > >My usage will be a lot of off trail, backcountry day-tripping, >including a lot of screwing around on hills trying [:-)] to >telemark... Not sure about full-length edges -- hear they slow you down >too much for touring, and I'm not LOOKING for ice. Edges are no substitute for edging. The narrower ski and more flexible binding demand better technique. Except for ice and hard-pack, plastic does just as well as metal. The important things to look for are flex and side-cut. Be sure to pick a ski with sufficient flex for a wax (or pattern) pocket. Many of the high-priced telemark skis are useless for going uphill! Look for generous side-cut; it will make up for needing the stiffer flex. For general back-country use, I think it is more important to save weight then to have iron-maiden boots. My Merrill/Saloman boots are torse enough for telemarking, yet light enough to still have fun in tracks. Generally speaking, you can get by with a lot of equipment and little technique, or a lot of technique and very little equipment. I hate to see people go the easy route, getting expensive, heavy telemark equipment, because the equipment covers a multitude of sins, and makes real learning more difficult by masking the mechanics of skiing with hardware. Sure, stick your feet in the high-tech plastic rear-entry quasi-downhill boots, clamp them on the super-wide, reverse cambered downhill-by-any-other- name boards, and you'll be able to telemark, but you won't know why, and you'll feel pretty silly the first time someone on parallel-cut double cambered racing skis passes you! (Down! Down! Get off that soapbox!) I've used the Karhus, they seem like a good compromise ski, useful for both up and down. -- :::::: Artificial Intelligence Machines --- Smalltalk Project :::::: :::::: Jan Steinman Box 1000, MS 60-405 (w)503/685-2956 :::::: :::::: tektronix!tekecs!jans Wilsonville, OR 97070 (h)503/657-7703 ::::::