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From: harwood@cvl.UUCP (David Harwood)
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: the location of the Temple Mount
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Date: Fri, 3-Jan-86 08:03:31 EST
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> This is one of the most interesting series of follow-ups I've ever seen.
> Let me rephrase the question:
> 
> DOES ANYONE OUT THERE IN NET LAND KNOW THE LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE,
> WITHIN A REASONABLE DEGREE OF TOLERENCE, OF THE TEMPLE?  

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	Sorry, if the true Temple is supernatural, then it's hard
to 'locate'. But my Jerusalem Bible locates the previous Temples
at ~750 meters altitude on the eastern border of the present old
Jerusalem, with the Temple proper about 300 meters facing east,
with the Innermost 200 meters within. The apparent latitude is
~31*48', longitude ~35*14' by inspection of the map, with error
of perhaps 3km. Sorry I don't have a detailed map.
	By the way, I cited the Song of Ascent, "I lift up my
eyes to the heavens (mountains)...", replying before about building
an orbiting city of peace, which would be visible everywhere as
a sign of hope. Actually, I confused the reference of the different
Psalms of Ascent to Mount Zion and heaven, because I once wrote one
for an as yet unfinished science fiction in which the orbiting city
was inscribed with: We lift up our eyes to the heavens, above the
hills of Jerusalem, to the shores of Galilee -- May the Lord be with
you, as you leave and return, by the Way of the Sea.
	So my interest in the 'location' of the 'heavenly' Jerusalem:
In the story, I likened the starry heavens to the Sea of Galilee, where
Christ has come, because of the obscure last words of Jesus, those of
the angel of resurrection: When I am raised up, I shall go before you
into Galilee. Which to my mind refer both to Jesus saying: In my Father's
house are many dwelling places... I go (before you) to prepare a place
for you. Both these were made celestial metaphors for the similarly
obscure promise of Exodus: I shall send my angel before you (into the
promised land)...My Name is in him. So the 'angel' of Christ appears
at the 'heavenly' City of Jerusalem, which I called (the star) of
New Bethlehem.
	Otherwise, I recall talking to Quaker Harlan Smith a few years
ago at Christmas. He is a Professor of Astronomy at U.Texas with an
interest in the L5 Society -- we discussed why did not the nations
build a truly international city in space, for peaceful purposes, to be
a visible sign of hope and reconciliation for all, especially for new
generations of children everywhere.
					David Harwood