Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site oliven.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!pesnta!pyramid!decwrl!glacier!oliveb!oliven!barb From: barb@oliven.UUCP (Barbara Jernigan) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: SF movies [was Re: Emeny Mine] Message-ID: <467@oliven.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Dec-85 18:14:38 EST Article-I.D.: oliven.467 Posted: Wed Dec 18 18:14:38 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Dec-85 09:09:48 EST References: <748@caip.RUTGERS.EDU> <3081@sun.uucp> Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 40 > :From catacombs of Castle Tarot: Chuq Von Rospach > sun!chuq@decwrl.DEC.COM {hplabs,ihnp4,nsc,pyramid}!sun!chuq > 2001, by the way, is truly a special case. Not only is it a film done at the > same time as the novel, but I also nominate it as the only SF film that was > BETTER than the book was. Anyone else want to add new nominations? Secret of NIMH is *much* better than the book. I've seldom been so disappointed in a book! There is *no* real conflict! As for good translations of books to movies: Watership Down is very good, as is The Last Unicorn (but then, Beagle wrote both book and screenplay). (And Zero Mostel as Keehar in the former -- should have gotten an Oscar!)(But then, I'm prejudiced.) As for the problems of book and movie, is a problem of medium. An author has a comparatively easy pace to tell his/her story. He/she can play 'games', allowing the reader *inside* the characters' heads, and he/she has no SPX budget to constrain him/her. (There is a Shelly Berman -- I believe -- spot on the advantages of radio over television that illustrates this quite well.) Given a movie, with a budget, with certain 'laws' of capability within that budget to pull off believable Special Effects, and with a two or so hour limitation, you have some very interesting problems. A novel into a true-to its-origin good movie seems almost a contradiction in terms. What do you leave out? (I'm sure most of us >ththhtbbbbt!< at condensed versions of "good" books.) And what do you do with a governing marketing/decision dept. who doubts that 'quality' will 'play in Peoria'? I don't mean to say that good movies from existing written formats (novels, short stories, etc.) are not impossible -- indeed, there are a few examples to the contrary; but they are difficult enough to produce to be flamed unlikely -- as we have >shudder< seen. Perhaps, someday, quality such as we crave will be the norm. But, having spent a couple recent sick days spinning the channels past the Game Shows, Soap Operas, and afternoon Cartoons, I have my fears. We are then left to support, as we can, those endeavers which *do* adhere to our needs for quality. Perhaps, someday, someone will listen. (Or I'll make enough $$$$ to do it myself!)(We're all entitled to a dream or two.) Barb Shoot for the stars -- you'll at least make the top of the mountain.