Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site dsi1.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!ut-sally!seismo!rlgvax!dsi1!jeff From: jeff@dsi1.UUCP (Jeff Armstrong) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re: responsibility, sensitivity, the usual stuff Message-ID: <439@dsi1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 31-Dec-85 13:39:18 EST Article-I.D.: dsi1.439 Posted: Tue Dec 31 13:39:18 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jan-86 04:48:05 EST References: <2338@pyuxd.UUCP> <438@dsi1.UUCP> Organization: Dynamic Systems, Inc., Arlington, VA Lines: 47 >> 3) The claim that anyone who DOESN'T take charge of the feelings/emotions (as > > these people have) is "responsible" for their predicament is a total > > fabrication. Clearly, as shown in the analogy above, you cannot be > > "responsible" for not knowing what you've been *taught* just the > > opposite of. It also seems to be a rationalization to eliminate > > If it's "their predicament," then how can they not be responsible for it? > If someone acts on feelings/emotions, he/she is still responsible for his/her > actions. As far as what you've been taught, you become responsible for that > knowledge the moment you accept it. Therefore, any actions that you take > based on something you've been taught are your responsibility because you > accepted what you've been taught as being the truth. > > Lee From the American Heritage Dictionary, Second College Edition - Responsible: .... 3. Being the source or cause of something. 4. Capable of making moral or rational decisions on one's own and therefore answerable for one's behavior. In this society there are plenty of institutionalized rationales for denying responsibility. In the extreme they are represented by the so-called "twinkie defense" of Dan White in San Fransisco. You will recall that his defense claim that he was not responsible for his actions rested, at least in part, on the notion that his mental (and therefore presumably ethical) processes were impaired by an excessive indulgence of sugar - notably twinkees. Recently there have been a spate of lawsuits against hosts/hostesses, tavern owners, bartenders, etc. on the claim that they are somehow to blame for accidents/injuries involving drunk drivers. While this serves to fix responsibility in a manner of speaking, it really only serves the idea that "if you are drunk, you are not really responsible for your actions". All of which is to say that a person who demands of himself/herself and others to take responsibility, even at the level of emotions/feelings, is actually running counter to current social trends. However, who amoung us has not lain awake in the dark of night and weighed the alternatives of accepting responsibilty and being counted among the "causers" or denying it and finding ourselves with the "caused". I think that greater freedom is found in the first choice. Assuming that a person's happiness goes hand-in-glove with their freedom it would seem clear that the attainment of responsibility for one's emotions, one's "knowledge", and indeed one's "self" would be well worth the effort. Jeff Armstrong ...!{seismo,rglvax,prometheus}!dsi1!dsi2!jeff