Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!space From: KFL@MIT-MC.ARPA ("Keith F. Lynch") Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Shooting into orbit Message-ID: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].765230.851223.KFL> Date: Mon, 23-Dec-85 22:14:01 EST Article-I.D.: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].765230.851223.KFL> Posted: Mon Dec 23 22:14:01 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Dec-85 01:50:01 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 28 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 85 15:51:43 PST From: mcgeer@ji (Rick McGeer) I thought of something related to the "catcher" idea, and I'm not sure it would work. This involves a transfer station in LEO, a two-way rail gun. Each shot is in pairs -- one side goes to GEO or moon-transfer orbit, the second is an earth entry orbit. It seems to me (no calculations, sadly) that one could, in principle, ship very large amounts of mass to HEO and beyond in this manner. In effect, each of the two payloads uses the other as reaction mass. ... Ya, this should work. Please note that the orbit the projectile is shot into would be an elliptical orbit whose perigee is at the same altitude as the transfer station. Possibly a second transfer station could be set up in GEO. Also note that although the momentum could be made to balance (which is important or the transfer station will fall out of the sky) but that you still need lots of energy. A way that does NOT need extra energy is the 'skyhook' idea propounded by Hans Moravec among others. The skyhook does not need to be fastened to the Earth, but could be freely rotating in Earth orbit. The latter is MUCH easier. Spacecrafts can dock to one end of this rotating cable and undock at the other end, having gotten 'free' delta-vee. This is possible because of the remarkable property that all rotating objects have, namely that all of the object (except the axis) is continually undergoing acceleration without consuming any energy or reaction mass. ...Keith