Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ames.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!hplabs!ames!eugene From: eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Newsgroups: net.space,net.politics Subject: Re: Aviation Week on Star Wars Message-ID: <1299@ames.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Dec-85 19:15:51 EST Article-I.D.: ames.1299 Posted: Mon Dec 30 19:15:51 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jan-86 04:42:40 EST References: <1289@ames.UUCP> <772@petrus.UUCP> <1149@lll-crg.ARpA> <1857@teddy.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 53 Xref: linus net.space:3546 net.politics:12089 > In article <1149@lll-crg.ARpA> medin@lll-crg.ARpA (Milo Medin) writes: > >The hype that some people ... > > Sounds to me the various scientifically minded . . . > vested interested > > > medin@ames.ARPA > ^^^^ > Not surprising. > > Sport Death, (USENET) ...{decvax | ihnp4!mit-eddie}!genrad!panda!lkk > Larry Kolodney (INTERNET) lkk@mit-mc.arpa This is neither science, nor hype. 1) the host ames.ARPA and the host I post from (ames.UUCP) are not one and the same machine. 2) Mr. Medin does not speak for the Space Agency as he is a contractor. NASA has not endorsed the SDI which is a military project. NASA is the CIVILIAN space and aeronautics agency. If you believe in conspiracy theories, then there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise, because your mind is already made up. Certainly people from both Agencies have crossed in different directions: most noteably former Lt. Gen. Abrahamson, former Shuttle Project head. We certainly have joint projects with some military cooperation, but these are highly limited: just as MIT has joint projects with the military. SDI will not be a NASA related project. We may have contractors bidding on SDI, but the Agency is specifically staying out of the SDI ball game. If you are concern about secondary and teritary effects, then you should not be reading this as computers are very much a military spinoff. 3) Many people within the Agency do not agree with Mr. Medin's viewpoint. The discussion up to this point has been a political and not a "scientific" discussion. The proper host where Mr. Medin should post his note is either lll or lanl. 4) Check the affiliations of O.B. Toon, J.B. Pollock, and T. Ackerman from the original Nuclear Winter study (coauthored with C. Sagan and R. Turco). Consider the possible military uses of pictures of Uranus and Neptune: better understanding of the weather for fallout purposes, any other? 5) Lastly, the Agency apologizes for other information which Mr. Medin posted which violated the trust we had with another contractor about internal projects. --eugene miya NASA Ames Research Center {hplabs,ihnp4,dual,hao,decwrl,allegra}!ames!aurora!eugene emiya@ames-vmsb.ARPA It has to go without saying: The views expressed above, with the exception of 5), are not entirely the opinions of NASA or its contractors. We must do not endorse any any products or services.