Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ames.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!ames!al From: al@ames.UUCP (Al Globus) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: A High Tech Maginot Line Message-ID: <1309@ames.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-Jan-86 20:01:39 EST Article-I.D.: ames.1309 Posted: Thu Jan 2 20:01:39 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Jan-86 05:01:18 EST References: <8512020718.AA15110@s1-b.arpa> <6219@utzoo.UUCP> <759@petrus.UUCP> <483@ucdavis.UUCP> Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 53 > > Sure it will, just like the ABM Treaty of 1972 kept the Soviets > from implementing ABM devices. The ABM treaty allowed both sides two ABM systems, one around a missle base and another around the capital. I think the Soviets built the one around their capital. We abandoned ours for some reason. > They have violated it several times. The only violation that I am aware of that has not been resolved by the board specifically set up to resolve such issues is the phased array radar being constructed. Although this may be a violation, it should be noted that Reagan has NOT submitted the issue to the board. Perhaps he's more interested in propoganda than resolution? > Perhaps I am overly pesimistic of my fellow human beings, but I do not > trust the Soviets. They are our undeclared enemy at this point in a > very cold 'Cold War'. Although the Soviets are considered our enemy, it should be noted that the armed forces of the Soviet Union have never attacked the United States, Russia and America have never fought a war (except a small invasion of Russia by US troops during the Russian Civil War), and in the two major conflicts of this century Russia was our ally. > Why should they adhere to a treaty with us if > it is not beneficial to them? They shouldn't and won't. However there are several issues, such as ASAT's and nuclear testing where the Soviet's feel a treaty is in their best interest, and I feel are in our best interest. It should be noted that the Soviets have implemented UNILATERAL bans on nuclear and ASAT tesing. Also, the Soviets have a new leader from a different generation. They have also made indications that they might accept on site verification and even withdraw from Afganistan. Hmmmmm. > I do not think that treaties of any kind > with the Soviet Union can be a cure. No. But they could help. And they are cheap financially. > I see it as the gun control laws on a large scale. > If you outlaw guns, only the criminals will have them. During one portion of it's history, Japan SUCCESSFULLY banned guns completely. > One last note, I do not think verification clauses are worth didly. > We have undeniably verified a phased array radar in Siberia that is > contrary to the '72 Treaty, yet nothing has been done. Perhaps if we submitted the issue to the board that has resolved these things in the past something would get done.