Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ewj01.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!bbnccv!ewj01!lj From: bob@ewj01.UUCP (Bob Felt) Newsgroups: net.text Subject: Re: embedded-command text systems [vs WYSIWYG, support for Reid] Message-ID: <206@ewj01.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Dec-85 09:14:10 EST Article-I.D.: ewj01.206 Posted: Thu Dec 12 09:14:10 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Dec-85 08:03:53 EST References: <471@harvard.ARPA> <773@mmintl.UUCP> <734@tpvax.fluke.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: East West Journal, Brookline, Mass. Lines: 63 The WSIWYG postings have been the most interesting I have read in the short time I have read this group. WSIWYG software combines the document production and editor functions. There are some good reasons to separate the editing and formatting functions. WSIWYG features are a distraction when you are using software to compose text, edit a document that requires multiple passes, or re-write. While you are writing, multiple buffers, a wide variety of commands, good recovery features, and powerful global com- mands are much more useful than WYSIWYG. Even copy editing is easier with a powerful editor, as compared to a less functional editor that also formats. Any editor function lost in favor of WSIWYG is too much. In all types of effective writing format follows con- tent. While it is true that you know that the material you are writing is narrative text that will be in paragraphs of some kind, or that you are drafting material that will result in a technical format, no one writes final drafts. Paragraphs move, sections move, sentences move, and words change place. The document divisions, at as low a level as the paragraph, change as you add or delete text. It is easier to use an editor that imposes no style until you are ready to work with style. I know some writers who format their work one phrase to a line, because it is easier to play with the sentence structure. The fact that your software is showing you a styled paragraph makes second pass work more difficult. For exam- ple, when you are working with paragraphs you are checking the relationship of the ideas in the text. You are looking for a logical transition made by the language, not a line break and an indent. The importance of the line break and indent is that this is a visual cue to the reader that you have completed a presentation. This is why it is a a typo- graphical convention. This is harder to do when the text ``looks'' finished; the formatting is working against what it is that you need to do to improve your work. The document divisions you create when composing often have more to do with state of your thought about the subject at a particular time than with a finished structure. Embed- ded commands may be more difficult to visualize; they are easier to use as notes, hooks and place markers. It is also very handy to have references or working notes in the text where you can use them. Since the commands can be redfined, you can have as many different hardcopy styles as you need without even opening the file. The format that is best for working with the text is not the production format. Bob Felt ********************************************************************* I use troff and tplus when making money, I don't make money with either. -- Bob Felt East West Journal {harvard,seismo}!bbnccv!ewj01!bob