Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site stl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!gatech!seismo!mcvax!ukc!stl!dww From: dww@stl.UUCP (David Wright) Newsgroups: net.text Subject: Re: embedded-command text systems Message-ID: <266@stl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Dec-85 14:04:04 EST Article-I.D.: stl.266 Posted: Fri Dec 13 14:04:04 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 16-Dec-85 05:14:57 EST References: <705@unc.unc.UUCP> <2168@glacier.ARPA> <259@uwstat.UUCP> Reply-To: dww@stl.UUCP (David Wright) Distribution: net Organization: STL,Harlow,UK. Lines: 23 In article <259@uwstat.UUCP> mikem@uwstat.UUCP writes: >... my PRIMARY reason for a wysiwyg system ; TECHNICAL symbols (in my case >mathematical equations, but other special symbols are just as important). > ... Anyone who has worked with eqn or TeX knows how hard it is to > get the equations correct. Funny you should say that - I've just helped a colleague set a bit of fairly 'hairy' maths with TeX without much trouble, except for one diagram that just could not be done right in TeX - so we went to the trusty Mac, did it in MacDraw, and pasted it in. On the Mac - unlike TeX whick 'knows' about these things - the main problem was to get the equations shown on the diagram lined up and in suitable fonts (especially subscripts). Lines and shapes are MUCH easier on the Mac though. Conclusion? we need text setting systems that let the user draw what can be drawn but know enough about the context and rules for the information so that the system - not the user - can be responsible for the less creative part of the job like getting the right relative font sizes, positions, justification etc.. At present no one system does it all. I hope that when one does we'll be able to afford it! -- Meta-quote from the TeXbook: " `Producing Greek letters are as easy as pi - you just type ... as easy as $\pi$' - Leslie Lamport. "