Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site mako.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!akguc!mtunh!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!orca!mako!jans From: jans@mako.UUCP (Jan Steinman) Newsgroups: net.text Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Message-ID: <992@mako.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Dec-85 01:08:14 EST Article-I.D.: mako.992 Posted: Mon Dec 30 01:08:14 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Jan-86 00:29:02 EST References: <2592@glacier.ARPA> <11287@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <990@mako.UUCP> <2643@glacier.ARPA> Reply-To: jans@mako.UUCP (Jan Steinman) Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 24 Summary: In article <2643@glacier.ARPA> reid@glacier.UUCP (Brian Reid) writes: >In article <990@mako.UUCP> jans@mako.UUCP (Jan Steinman) writes: >>Take, for instance, Richard Stallman's GNU emacs. It is best known as a >>WYSIWYG text editor, however, it also has a text-manipulation language... > >Emacs is not a WYSIWYG editor. It is a display editor... Semantics, semantics! Emacs is a WYSIWYG /text editor\ as opposed to a /text formatter\. You type a character, it appears on the screen as a graphical representation of that character's position in the file. What-you-see-is-what- you-get, clear and simple. There exists another class of tools, which I will call /text formatters\, that describe certain /attributes\ of text, as opposed to a mere ASCII interpretation of that text. My point, which one completely missed, and Brian obfuscated, is that there should be an "emacs" of the text-formatter world -- a WYSIWYG formatter with a tightly integrated attribute description language. Like Peter (love your middle name!) Korn, I am anxiously awaiting Brian's thoughts on why this is impossible. -- :::::: Artificial Intelligence Machines --- Smalltalk Project :::::: :::::: Jan Steinman Box 1000, MS 60-405 (w)503/685-2956 :::::: :::::: tektronix!tekecs!jans Wilsonville, OR 97070 (h)503/657-7703 ::::::