Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!opus!jrw From: jrw@opus.UUCP (James R. Webb) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.unix,net.followup Subject: Re: Disturbing News re. DEC and UNIX Message-ID: <162@opus.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Dec-85 14:18:06 EST Article-I.D.: opus.162 Posted: Wed Dec 18 14:18:06 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Dec-85 05:14:36 EST References: <177@ecrcvax.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 25 Keywords: DEC, System V, updates Xref: watmath net.unix-wizards:16153 net.unix:6667 net.followup:5563 Disturbing news? I know this is not the place for the religious war between the System V and Berkeley factions, but I think DEC is moving in the right direction in "supporting" System V on the VAX line. A clarification here, by supporting, I mean that they have purchased the source license from ATT and modified the code to allow it to be used with their processors. For example, one of the machines I administer is an 8600 that runs System V Rel. 2. When we bought the machine it came with a cpio tape of source files that DEC had changed in the standard release of SVR2. DEC supports these changes to the operating system. They support the UDA50 for System V Releases 1 and 2 in the same fashion, they supply an update tape. The rational behind this is that, if they sent out an entire distribution, then they would be selling UNIX, and would have to charge the $43,000 source licence cost, as ATT would be loosing sales then. This is the only support I know of as to DEC's policy on System V. I have heard that they are not supporting 4.3BSD on the 8600 because it would be in direct competition with Ultrix, so I doubt very much that they are abandoning Ultrix... I highly doubt that they will bring out a System V Ultrix either, for there really is no reason for them to do so, for they charge MANY $$$ just for they update tapes to System V now... -- James R. Webb ihnp4!opus!jrw