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From: jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao)
Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards
Subject: Re: Ultrix and 4.2 and der Mouse
Message-ID: <134@hadron.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 19-Dec-85 02:46:39 EST
Article-I.D.: hadron.134
Posted: Thu Dec 19 02:46:39 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 20-Dec-85 05:52:14 EST
References: <1554@decwrl.UUCP> <1441@cornell.UUCP>
Reply-To: jsdy@hadron.UUCP (Joseph S. D. Yao)
Organization: Hadron, Inc., Fairfax, VA
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Summary: You still need support staff  a n d  source!

In article <1441@cornell.UUCP> george@cornell.UUCP (George R. Boyce) writes:
>In article <1554@decwrl.UUCP> aps@decwrl.UUCP (Armando P. Stettner) writes:
>>Ultrix is not really good for academic environment where students will
>>be doing thesis work on operating systems or other computer science
>>activities that involve modifying existing programs.  It is better
>>suited to places that have less experience with UNIX or for places that
>>would prefer not to maintain the staff necessary to keep up an
>>operating system.
>Ok, I give. Does someone care to support or attack this thesis?

So far I've spent quite a bit of time fixing Ultrix so that we can
use it.  This is Ultrix 1.1 on a 750, not the Micro-VAX Boyce seems
to have (?).  The first fix was to retrofit bug fixes into hp.c so
that we could use our disc drives.  This was quite a task without
source!  We got the source, and continue to incorporate bug fixes.
The DECvolken over at decuac (in lieu of other software support
people -- that's not their real job) have been very willing to help,
but overworked.

Bottom line:  from where I sit, at least, it looks like you still
need source and support staff.  This is  n o t  an opinion, it is
empirical observation.
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	Joe Yao		hadron!jsdy@seismo.{CSS.GOV,ARPA,UUCP}