Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 GARFIELD 20/11/84; site garfield.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!garfield!robertj From: robertj@garfield.UUCP Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Spot the difference Message-ID: <245@garfield.UUCP> Date: Mon, 6-Jan-86 07:45:12 EST Article-I.D.: garfield.245 Posted: Mon Jan 6 07:45:12 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 6-Jan-86 09:42:30 EST References: <130@ubc-cs.UUCP> Sender: paulc@garfield.UUCP Reply-To: robertj@garfield.UUCP (Robert Janes) Distribution: can Organization: Memorial U. of Nfld. C.S. Dept., St. John's Lines: 32 Keywords: company, union, inflammatory, capitalist Summary: In article <130@ubc-cs.UUCP> andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) writes: > >- A worker helps his company make profits. If he really doesn't like the way > the company is using those profits he can and should quit his job. > >- A worker helps his union make profits. If he really doesn't like the way > the union is using those profits he can and should quit his job. > >Happy new year >--Jamie. There are a number of differences which have nothing at all to with whether or not I am a capitalist dog. The first of these is that unions do not exist to make profits if this is what unions exist to do then I would suggest that we immediately disband them and work up some completely new system for the protection of workers than the one we have now. Unions are protective organizations and the disagreement currently in the court is asking for an interpretation of what that means. Secondly there exists a contractual relationship between a company and its workers which does not exist between a union and its membership. Though collective bargaining (or whatever) an employee and an employer come to some mutual agreement upon what each is worth to the other. What then employee does with his own money after that is his own business, likewise for the company. I could go on. A better analogy would be company is to shareholder as union is to worker. Then the problems and differences become a bit clearer. Cheers Robert Janes (Sometimes capitalist running dog)