Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <929@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Sat, 11-Jan-86 10:59:41 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.929 Posted: Sat Jan 11 10:59:41 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Jan-86 06:03:20 EST Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 184 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Saturday, January 11, 1986, 11:00 Today's Topics: Greek and Czechoslovakian/Russian influences in "The Ninth Wave" If you can't please yourself, you can't please your soul... Roy Harper, Pete Townsend, and David Gilmour A wrestling match between Debbie Harry and Kate? Kate, Debbie, and James Bond Lazarus Life After Death award [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 21 Dec 85 21:08:19 est From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Greek and Czechoslovakian/Russian influences in "The Ninth Wave" > [Steve Tynor:] Now, can anyone provide a translation of the men's > chorus lines? I've heard several of you refer to it as 'greek > chorus'. Why? I wish I knew what they were singing too. It might just be sounds. In any case, I called the chorus "Greek" because Kate said in her newsletter, a long time before the album actually came out, that there was music on the album that was inspired by a Greek ritual ceremony. The chorus was the only music that sounded Greek to me. That chorus, as we now know, was actually inspired by music from Werner Hertzog's movie "Nosferatu", and is actually, acording to Kate, some sort of Russian or Czechoslovakian traditional music. The music from the Greek ritual ceremony actually appears in "The Ninth Wave" as the rhythm to "The Jig Of Life". "Now is the place where the crossroads meet" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 21 Dec 85 21:24:17 est From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: If you can't please yourself, you can't please your soul... > From: Susanne E Trowbridge > IN any case, here is more info on the Some Bizzare (yes, that's the correct > spelling) compilation, "If You Can't Please Yourself You Can't Please Your > Soul." This sounds like a wonderful album. Strangely enough, they even had a big poster for this album on the wall at EMI-America Publicity when I went to interview Kate. It has a beautifully disturbing cover. > 5. Psychic TV, "Twisted." From the remains of Throbbing > Gristle...Psychic TV's alter-ego is Coil (who are on side 2). I like all of these groups, especially Psychic TV. I didn't know they are related, however. How are they? "You, you're unclean..." Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 22 Dec 85 22:23:38 est From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Roy Harper, Pete Townsend, and David Gilmour Here's the whole story behind the "Hope"/"White City Fighting" similarities. This is taken from an article by Andy Mabbett in "The Amazing Pudding", a Pink Floyd fanzine: Mr G. returns to play lead on the title track, a song which he co-wrote called "White City Fighting". This song has quite a history. For those of you who haven't been paying attention, Dave wrote this music for "About Face", but had no lyrics for it. He sent it to Pete, who wrote these lyrics for it. Dave didn't think the lyrics applied to him (they tell the tale of a star's rise from "rags to riches"). Roy Harper heard the tune and wrote different lyrics, which Dave also rejected as inappropriate. (This time it's a message to future generations). Roy used the tune with his lyrics, as "Hope" on his "Whatever Happened to Jugula?" album. Dave is uncredited on this & Roy's son plays a guitar that sounds more like Gilmour's than Gilmour's does. Pete then decided to use his version for this project and asked Dave to play on it -- hence his involvement here. Roy's "Hope" is slower, with more echo on the guitar and a laid back Harper vocal which reaches deep inside the listener. Pete's interpretation, faster and with a clearer guitar sound, has its lyrics sung in a much more aggressive fashion. It's ironic that one is looking forwards and the other looking back. I can't choose between the two -- each has its own attraction and it's great to hear them back to back. This recording featuring Dave & possible Pino, is presumably closer to the original, but I'd love to hear it and see. I haven't heard "White City Fighting", but since Roy's "Hope" is close to perfection, I truly doubt that "White city Fighting" can be as good. "That we both may share The hope in hearing That we're not just Spirits disappearing" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 23 Dec 85 00:32:01 est From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: A wrestling match between Debbie Harry and Kate? In the January issue of SPIN (the issue with the review of HoL), there is an interview with Debbie Harry and Chris Stein of Blondie.... SPIN: You were into wrestling long before Cyndi Lauper. Do you think you're the toughest female vocalist? DEBBIE: No! I'm a pussycat. I'd hate to face the Weather Girls. CHRIS: Debbie could take Kate Bush. DEBBIE: I could beat Cyndi Lauper. Anytime, anyplace! Maybe they should have a three way free for all.... -Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 23 Dec 85 00:54:48 est From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Kate, Debbie, and James Bond Later in that same interview.... SPIN: "For Yours Eyes Only". DEBBIE: That was supposed to be the theme from the James Bond movie. We thought they wanted us to write one. Actually, it turned out that they already had a song they wanted me to sing. Kate Bush did it. [Hummmmph!!! -Doug] Oh, no. It was Sheena Easton. Kate was asked to sing the title song to "Moonraker", but turned it down saying that she didn't think she could do a good job. Maybe Debbie and Kate should form a club for singers who have turned down the opportunity to sing a James Bond title song.... "Ooh, James, are you selling your soul To a cold gun?" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 23 Dec 85 02:29:55 est From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Lazarus Life After Death award Melody Maker just awarded Kate runner up to the Lazarus Life After Death award. Gee, thanks guys.... "She said c'mon let me live" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@mit-eddie.mit.edu