Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!telecom From: Gene.Hastings@H.CS.CMU.EDU Newsgroups: mod.telecom Subject: Re: Telephone parts & info sources Message-ID: <1986.1.4.0.13.2.Gene.Hastings@h.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 3-Jan-86 20:04:39 EST Article-I.D.: h.1986.1.4.0.13.2.Gene.Hastings Posted: Fri Jan 3 20:04:39 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Jan-86 14:55:58 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 46 Approved: telecom@mit-xx.arpa The way the markets have been developing, there are umpteen sources for cheap parts for WIRING supplied to discount department stores and small electronics shops (usually MRO, the kind of folks that used to sell you tubes), but the sets themselves are black boxes (understandable in light of registration-when you're a ham, or mess around with your TV, the only one you can electrocute is yourself). For the avid Seeker (there's one born every minute), there are avenues of information. For whatever reason, most of the industrial suppliers who have gotten into telephony have not been electronic, but electrical, viz Graybar and (my favorite) Anixter. I think the rationale has been based on what's used most by telephones is WIRE. Such firms will usually have a "will call" desk, and if you can stand handing payment to a secretary while looking at a room full of inside-salescritters, fine. The response you get will probably vary greatly (I've never gotten any useful information out of the local Graybar sales people, to the point where I stopped trying years ago). I only found out a) that there was a local Anixter office and b) they carried communications products in the midst of a search for flexible power cable (I remebered them as essentially a supplier to electrical utilities and contractors). The salesperson I deal with is extremely helpful, but is often out of her depth, which leads me to the next item: Catalogs!!! Catalogs are available from many suppliers (somtimes many catalogs, from subdividing their line), and usually you have but to ask. You can then ask for a manufacturer's data sheet, or the manufacturer's address, for MORE CATALOGS!! Some are informative, some are firestarters. There are several products I didn't know I wished someone made until I found a picture of it. Suppliers: Graybar, Anixter, Famous Telephone Supply, Buckeye Telephone Supply, Toner (serving largely cable TV companies, but you never know..). Manufacturers: Armiger, Reliable Electric, Siemon, Suttle, 3M, TRW/Cinch, Thomas & Betts. The Armiger Catalog is a case in point: It includes lists of descriptions and connections of RJ-cokebottle, very intelligibly, and as up-to-date as your catalog is (they aren't real good about updates, but they'll send a new catalog if you ask): Armiger and Associates, 2525 Ridgmar Blvd. Fort Worth, Texas 76116, 817/737-2900. And that's just for wiring! Call your local supplier, or the manufacturer for what in many cases strongly resembles BSPs. There usually is information available, if only connection diagrams and schematics. I'll probably be quiet for another 6 months now, but feel free to inquire if there's something you can't find. Be well, Gene Hastings