Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!ucdavis!ucbvax!telecom From: lars@ACC.ARPA Newsgroups: mod.telecom Subject: Re: Touch-Tone Charges Message-ID: <8601160435.AA28040@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 15-Jan-86 15:22:00 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8601160435.AA28040 Posted: Wed Jan 15 15:22:00 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Jan-86 00:34:06 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 46 Approved: telecom@mit-xx.arpa From: SAGE::MAILER 15-JAN-1986 07:09 To: LARS Subj: [Netmail From: hammond%lafite@mouton.ARPA (Rich A. Hammond at lafite.UUCP)] Re: Touch Tone Access Charges Date: Wed, 15 Jan 86 10:02:01 est From: hammond%lafite@mouton.ARPA (Rich A. Hammond at lafite.UUCP) Message-Id: <8601151502.AA29329@lafite.UUCP> To: lars@acc-sb-unix.arpa, lars@acc.arpa Subject: Re: Touch Tone Access Charges 1) You posted from acc-sb-unix.arpa, but said your return address was acc.arpa. Since our hosts lists those as 2 different places, I sent it to both. As I understand the system: 1) Charges for Touch-tone service are set by the local operating companies with the consent of the PUC (or it's equivalent). The extra charge for Touch tone service is essentially a tax on the "rich" (since it is a "premium" service) transferred to the "poor" (who use pulse dialing). This is influenced by "politics" since the local companies are still a monopoly and some redistribution of costs vs prices is done. Thus, there is typically (another example) a "lifeline" service grade that allows people to have a phone, at a less expensive rate. The cost is picked up by all other subscribers. 2) The cost to the phone companies of new equipment is typically depreciated over a long (i.e. 20 years) period of time, so we are in fact paying for equipment that was installed quite some time ago. Paying the costs over the long term is like buying a house with a mortgage, the total cost is more, but the monthly outlays are small. 3) The actual cost of providing the service isn't the problem, the problem is revenue. The telephone companies want to continue to make as much money as before, so if they charge less for Touch-tone, then the pulse service (or some other service) has to go up in price. You can guess at the reaction of the Public Utilities Commision to such a proposal, since they view Touch tone as a "premium" service. 4) Arguments that the phone companies should simply take in less money I won't buy, since I didn't hear those complaining about the cost volunteering to work for less this year than last, which is what they are asking the phone companies to do. Rich Hammond hammond@bellcore-cs-gw.arpa ------