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From: cs111olg@ucla-cs.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: a task for those opposed to abortion
Message-ID: <8434@ucla-cs.ARPA>
Date: Sun, 19-Jan-86 07:10:26 EST
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Posted: Sun Jan 19 07:10:26 1986
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References: <1100@oddjob.UUCP> <380@cisden.UUCP> <387@cisden.UUCP> <8328@ucla-cs.ARPA> <414@cisden.UUCP>
Reply-To: cs111olg@ucla-cs.UUCP (Oleg Kiselev (the student incarnation))
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Summary: WOW! Fr. IS serious!

What can I say?! I take off my hat and salute you, Fr.! I guess you must have 
resources us, mere mortals don't! (18 years of support and no religious
nonsence?! You BETTER be serious!)

In article <414@cisden.UUCP> john@cisden.UUCP (John Woolley) writes:
>
>I'm deadly serious about this, so pay attention, Oleg.
>
>[Fr. gives a promise of long-term support and financial assistance]
>[and his address]

Well, Fr. I am not the one to back down on my word and I have saved your address
and phone #. It IS long-distance, but I am sure you have some friends in LA as
well. 

>That's a promise, not just to Oleg's friends, but to anybody.  And welcome
>to the ranks of the pro-Lifers, Oleg.

Fr., you are being presumptious! I will suggest to any friend of mine who is 
considering having an abortion that she give you a call first and consider 
having you help her iff she decides NOT to have an abortion. THIS, however,
in no way points to ME approving that OR joining the ranks of PRO-LIFERS....

May be you just CAN'T UNDERSTAND, Fr.! I'll try (again!!!) explaining it:

	MY position is irrelevant as far as any INDIVIDUAL woman is concerned.

	I DON'T insist that ABORTION is the best contraceptive. ON THE CONTRARY,
	I view ABORTION as a VERY SERIOUS ACT OF INTERVENTION into a woman's 
	body which MAY (and DOES all TOO OFTEN) result in DAMAGE and LASTING 
	PHYSICAL HARM to the woman. 
	
	I DON'T consider it my right to dictate MY views to any one, much less
	condemn them for making a decision I might find unwise.  There for I 
	call myself a PRO-CHOICER : I support each and every woman's right to
	CHOOSE what she is going to do with her body and her life.

	As for your offer vs. my position : NOTHING is changed! I am glad that 
	a woman who would like to give birth to a child and can't afford to
	(for many reasons!) has some one to turn to for support and assistance.
	I STILL would advise a woman in such situation to consider all the long
	term implications of her decision -- and make her CHOICE.

CHOICE, Fr.!!! CHOICE!!! NOT an inforcement of some one's moral code on others
but a FREEDOM to MAKE OWN DECISIONS!

***Try to understand, Fr.!!!*** VERY FEW WOMEN IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS WOULD WANT
TO UNDERGO AN ABORTION. VERY FEW WOMEN IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO GET
PREGNANT *BY ACCIDENT*, WHEN THEY ***CAN'T*** AFFORD (for whatever reason!) TO
GET PREGNANT!!! VERY FEW WOMEN IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD ADVOCATE ABORTION AS
A SOLUTION TO EVERY PREGNANCY! 

So don't hole up in your convenient and comfortable dogma, Fr.! Face it! 
I am in favor of CHOICE, you are against it. Forget this nonsence with PRO-LIFE
lable - there is no such thing! There is PRO-CHOICE and ANTI-CHOICE. 

And leave moral decisions to the mothers who are the ones to carry the burden...